Should Mom's heart be harder?

[Mahasamatman]

Today i got the the item that lets you fire brimstone for like 2 seconds and it recharges every 2 room. I used it on mom and it deplenished around 70% of health. Also its attacks are very simple and predictable. Do you think Moms heart or It Lives be harder?

[burn1none]

it's not even close to the final boss so no

[Daffy]

A boss being easy with x item does not call for a buff on that boss a better idea would be hader optimal bosses.

[Justice]

Originally posted by naturalselector89:

Today i got the the item that lets you fire brimstone for like 2 seconds and it recharges every 2 room. I used it on mom and it deplenished around 70% of health. Also its attacks are very simple and predictable. Do you think Moms heart or It Lives be harder?

It's not the boss that it is easy. It's the game with their overpowered items. Belive me with low damage Mom's heart is pretty hell like boss.

[Mahasamatman]

Originally posted by Revenge:

Originally posted by naturalselector89:

Today i got the the item that lets you fire brimstone for like 2 seconds and it recharges every 2 room. I used it on mom and it deplenished around 70% of health. Also its attacks are very simple and predictable. Do you think Moms heart or It Lives be harder?

It's not the boss that it is easy. It's the game with their overpowered items. Belive me with low damage Mom's heart is pretty hell like boss.

I agree. Lets say that moms heart would be the boss of Basement 1. That would have been veryhard. But ask yourself have you ever got to Womb 2 without getting DMG upradge. Most likely no.

[Mahasamatman]

Originally posted by burn1none:

it's not even close to the final boss so no

Not even close? What do you mean? After that its Sheol or Cathedral and then theres the final boss. Not too far

[Phaper]

Originally posted by naturalselector89:

Originally posted by burn1none:

it's not even close to the final boss so no

Not even close? What do you mean? After that its Sheol or Cathedral and then theres the final boss. Not too far

Nope.

There's a total of six more bosses after Mom's Heart.

[Mahasamatman]

Originally posted by Phaper:

Originally posted by naturalselector89:

Not even close? What do you mean? After that its Sheol or Cathedral and then theres the final boss. Not too far

Nope.

There's a total of six more bosses after Mom's Heart.

And they are?

[Ice]

Originally posted by naturalselector89:

Originally posted by Phaper:

Nope.

There's a total of six more bosses after Mom's Heart.

And they are?

Satan, The Lamb, Isaac, ???, Mega Satan, and Hush. There will likely be at least one more boss once Afterbirth+ comes out too.

[burn1none]

Originally posted by naturalselector89:

Originally posted by Phaper:

Nope.

There's a total of six more bosses after Mom's Heart.

And they are?

Hush and Mega Satan are much more challenging than It Lives and that's not even counting the fact that The Chest and The Dark Room are bosses almost every room more challenging than It Lives.

[Phaper]

If you don't have enough damage to kill It Lives really quickly, it's a challenging boss fight, because you have to fight the individual waves of enemies while evading the bullets.

The difficulty is fine.

[Juno Brier]

Mom's Heart and It Lives are already harder than they were in the original Binding of Isaac.

They really seem to be intended as the kind of boss that would be hard for new players but reasonable for experienced players.

[throg]

^^

[Ice]

Originally posted by Juno Brier:

Mom's Heart and It Lives are already harder than they were in the original Binding of Isaac.

They really seem to be intended as the kind of boss that would be hard for new players but reasonable for experienced players.

I think this is what they went for, for sure. But I think it failed on the latter half of that idea because experienced players will almost always be completely overpowered if they get that far. The problem really is with the number of powerful items and synergies, not the enemies or bosses.

[Mahasamatman]

Originally posted by Ice:

Originally posted by naturalselector89:

And they are?

Satan, The Lamb, Isaac, ???, Mega Satan, and Hush. There will likely be at least one more boss once Afterbirth+ comes out too.

Not really. You cant fight both Isaac and the lamb. You can fight 4 bosses at max after Moms heart. Satan, The Lamb, Mega Satan and Hush or Hush, Isaac and ???

[Nelbosaj]

I think it should be harder. Many people say that "imagine" that you're going to the Womb without any reasonable way of dealing damage. The key term there is "imagine", not "realisticly ever happend" even if it did happen, you most of the time die without getting to Moms Heart. Look, I've never had a run where I lost to Moms Heart, ever. The boss dies in under 10-5 seconds depending on the run and the rest of the bosses are a problem.