The Binding of Isaac: Rebirth

The Binding of Isaac: Rebirth

What is the worst trinket, item & Active item in your opinion?
This is basically a response to my other post. Love to know your guys opinions.

Also tonsil Abel and the beans don't count, they are agreed to be completely useless.

In my opinion...

• Umbilical cord: the effect is literally useless. the lil Steven does next to no damage and dosnt even stay with you through rooms.

• Little Baggy: Removing all cards and runes just makes your run so boring.

• D12: re rolling rocks has next to no benefit. It always pops up on my runs, costing me a item room.
Last edited by Beautiful Ronald Regan moments; May 11, 2018 @ 9:21pm
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Fracastador May 11, 2018 @ 9:40pm 
Worst active item is plan C. It appears in almost every item pool, and is almost never useful. (You might be able to use it to cheese some unlocks, but it probably isn't worth getting until you have nearly every unlock anyway because once it's in your item pools, it will NEVER leave you alone.)
Also, if you use it by mistake for some reason, you will die. Straight up death. Game over. Not that that's particularly likely, but it's still a pretty dire consequence.

Worst passive item is probably strange attractor. If you have ludo, brimstone, or a tech-beam, it might be decent, because that way it's able to pull enemies away from you, but otherwise it will often pull enemies directly into your face, since that's where tears come out of.

Worst trinket is cursed skull. How many runs have you had were getting warped out of the room when you have 1 red health remaining would actually have been helpful to you? How often do you have the resources left over to recover that health? And if you have no red health, it will warp you every time you get damaged. It does not work with the lost either.
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Rio May 11, 2018 @ 9:42pm 
Worst trinket might be mom's toe nail. It actively can hurt or kill you.

Worst active is Plan C. Its also the worst item in the entire game, even if you combine every bad item into one, this is still worse than all those combined. I've had runs where plan C has shown up 3 times, because it was in so many different item pools (And yes, I did touch it each time)

Worst Passive is curse of the tower (Or strange attractor). It ruins using demon beggers, blood donation machine, and possibly makes sacrifice rooms lethal. Does it have good synergies yes, can a trinket make is good yes. But it still awful in most runs.
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kone May 11, 2018 @ 10:03pm 
Umbilical Cord - useless effect, seen activated just once or twice in my 1,500 hrs
Broken Modem - affects dodging as it affects predictablility of enemies, useless to harmful pickup
The Scissors - extremely weak offensive active, even when spammed, Plan C has seen more use

I'm a fan of the beans. Black Bean and Mega Bean's poison scale with damage, Butter Bean is acceptable for bullet hell bosses and turns into Wait What, Kidney Bean is acceptable on below average runs and Linger Bean is good. The Bean is a fantastic pickup because it scales with damage, has extended poison time and is a one room charge.
Last edited by kone; May 11, 2018 @ 10:59pm
Fracastador May 11, 2018 @ 11:16pm 
Originally posted by Kitten Exterminator:
Broken Modem - affects dodging as it affects predictablility of enemies, useless to harmful pickup
It does effect dodging, but it also pauses fast enemies and shots in their tracts periodically. Paused enemies are more difficult to predict but easier to hit. You don't have to predict enemies when they're dead, so that's often a positive.
Paused bullets are more difficult to predict but if you know their trajectory it makes fast bullets much easier to dodge.
I'd put it at the top of anti-delirium passives, and I've used it in a large number of my winning runs since it's shop available and turns up often. It's amazing how much it slows him down overall.
Last edited by Fracastador; May 11, 2018 @ 11:19pm
Leech Squirrel May 12, 2018 @ 2:06am 
I haven't unlocked anywhere close to everything yet, but getting Dead Cat by accident toward the end of a nice run is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ infuriating.

Cursed Eye usually means quit the run at once, unless it is absurdly mighty and I am willing to take some chances.

Bob's Brain screwed me up royally once with its uncontrollable explosions and I am pretty much never getting it again unless I am immune to such things. Same goes for the Curse of the Tower (or whatever it's called), except it screwed me up more times.

Not sure about about activated items, since those can be disposed of, but many are not particularly useful, and the same goes for trinkets.
Spockus May 12, 2018 @ 5:38am 
One of the beans is halfway decent i think, it's the one that makes a rocky explosion with poison. Anyways, imo the worst item is probably either anything that randomly teles you out of a room on taking damage or curse of the tower, it sucks ass.

Also, I actually like bob's brain. It's not even that bad tbh, it's like using super short range IPECAC from the first game lol
Rio May 12, 2018 @ 5:49am 
I want to also add that I have a special hate of Able and won't pick it up. It annoys the heck out of me, plus it can shoot bombs you've placed out of the way.

I don't like familiars in isaac in general and will usually let them rot over pick them up, even if they are free. Ghost baby, brother bobby, sister maggy, rainbow baby, mongo baby, ect.

If its not incubus, succubus, acid baby, rotten baby, ect it can stay right there forever. Last thing I need is a junk familiar taking up a good slot in the line for when I find a good one.

I don't even care about conjoined anymore.
Spockus May 12, 2018 @ 7:46am 
Originally posted by Carpel (Daily Workout):
I want to also add that I have a special hate of Able and won't pick it up. It annoys the heck out of me, plus it can shoot bombs you've placed out of the way.

I don't like familiars in isaac in general and will usually let them rot over pick them up, even if they are free. Ghost baby, brother bobby, sister maggy, rainbow baby, mongo baby, ect.

If its not incubus, succubus, acid baby, rotten baby, ect it can stay right there forever. Last thing I need is a junk familiar taking up a good slot in the line for when I find a good one.

I don't even care about conjoined anymore.

Ghost baby can be good if you use it right. Also, lil brimstone is amazing...
Rio May 12, 2018 @ 7:52am 
Originally posted by Spockus:
Originally posted by Carpel (Daily Workout):
I want to also add that I have a special hate of Able and won't pick it up. It annoys the heck out of me, plus it can shoot bombs you've placed out of the way.

I don't like familiars in isaac in general and will usually let them rot over pick them up, even if they are free. Ghost baby, brother bobby, sister maggy, rainbow baby, mongo baby, ect.

If its not incubus, succubus, acid baby, rotten baby, ect it can stay right there forever. Last thing I need is a junk familiar taking up a good slot in the line for when I find a good one.

I don't even care about conjoined anymore.

Ghost baby can be good if you use it right. Also, lil brimstone is amazing...

Lil brim can be amazing if its in a good position in your familiar line up. Guess what taking the bad familiars first does? It puts him in a bad position in your follower line up. Same with incubus.

After a point if you have too many familiars you can be hit by tears you don't even notice because theres a huge number of low damage tears and followers filling the screen.

I've said for AGES I'd be more inclined to take bad familiars if they would combine together. Similar to super bum. But instead of doing that we got bandaids like duct tape.
Last edited by Rio; May 12, 2018 @ 8:05am
Surprised that bobs brain has not popped up.
Rio May 12, 2018 @ 7:59am 
Originally posted by OrnaBug:
Surprised that bobs brain has not popped up.

Leech Squirrel said bob's brain.
Spockus May 12, 2018 @ 8:03am 
Originally posted by OrnaBug:
Surprised that bobs brain has not popped up.

Bob's brain is good, i think they changed it to stick around for like 3 seconds before firing, and if you don't notice you have a massive green thing following you after 3 seconds then tbh you deserve any damage you get from the brain blowing you up...
Rio May 12, 2018 @ 8:15am 
Originally posted by Spockus:
Originally posted by OrnaBug:
Surprised that bobs brain has not popped up.

Bob's brain is good, i think they changed it to stick around for like 3 seconds before firing, and if you don't notice you have a massive green thing following you after 3 seconds then tbh you deserve any damage you get from the brain blowing you up...

It was better before boss armor bosses. The delay when entering a room before being able to fire it, is a big reason its so bad and frustrating to use imo.

Its still on my don't take list though. Because it can easily end runs. And isn't a huge positive. While firemind is just as dangerous, firemind is fun. Still, don't take fire mind in greed mode because the ultra greed fight.
Last edited by Rio; May 12, 2018 @ 11:56am
The Unmobable spés May 12, 2018 @ 11:52am 
Bob's brain is basically free bombs with moving enemys inside the room. You can lure them to tinted rocks, blue torches, bomb rocks etc. and Blow them up with the brain if done right.

I can't do it reasonably good and likely and i still take damage but sometimes i get lucky rock or secret rooms this way.

I don't like the beans tbh but i don't like to be in melee range in serious isaac runs unless i get maw of the void or something like that.

Cursed eye is something i never pick up.
RocketPotatoL62 May 12, 2018 @ 12:38pm 
Worst trinket:
Cursed Skull. This is the one trinket I'll never use no matter the context. Being taken out of a room upon getting hit will do more harm than good in almost every single situation where it applies.

Worst passive:
Cursed eye. I can find a reason to pick up almost any item there is, but the only reason this thing is even in my collection grid is because of curse of the blind. It's like cursed skull but worse since it can happen any time you're trying to fire tears. I'll even reset the game if curse of the blind graces me with this thing because it'll save the trouble of having to fight a final boss 7+ times before I finally die.

Worst active item:
Breath of life. This thing's effect is borderline useless unless you master how it works to get yourself free blood donations and devil beggar payouts. Brief invincibility is completely useless in combat since you're more likely to get yourself hit trying to benefit from it than just dodging whatever the enemy sends your way.

A very close second for this would be dead sea scrolls. I probably won't even pick this up.

Fun fact: the very first time I used dead sea scrolls in the original Isaac gave me the kamikaze effect as I used it during the mom boss. It almost cost me my very first "win".

I can make use of almost every single item in the game. I'll even make good use of the bean if that's the only active I can get my hands on. However, I'll never pick up the items above no matter what.
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