The Binding of Isaac: Rebirth

The Binding of Isaac: Rebirth

ok Jan 18, 2018 @ 12:45pm
What deals are worth it?
What deals with the devil are worth?
Originally posted by dribson:
Everyone has different preferences, but it all comes down to potential viability and potential risks.

Guppy items are generally always worth it (though for Guppy's Hair Ball, only if it'll be the 3rd item in the transformation)
Anything that can grant more health than is taken away (Abaddon, Ceremonial Robes, Satanic Bible)
Anything that increases damage output without changing tear effects (Abaddon, Death's Touch, Succubus, The Mark)
Various other all-around great items (Void, Guppy's Head, Guppy's Paw, Goat Head/Duality, Rotten Baby, Incubus)

Some items are more situational, however:
Brimstone and Mom's Knife, since they drastically change tear effects, may be much better or much worse for whatever you have now or may find in the future.
Most other active items, in my opinion are decent at best. Picking up any book to finish a Bookworm transformation can be useful.

Some items aren't worth the health, unless you can take other deals to offset the health loss. Items such as Brother Bobby/Sister Maggy, Athame, Betrayal, Empty Vessel, My Shadow, Shade, Dark Princes Crown.

Some items are just bad, and aren't even worth picking up for free (cough cough Plan C cough cough) except for completion reasons.


Like I said, most devil deals come down to preference, and the state of the current run.
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Nazemec Jan 18, 2018 @ 12:46pm 
Most (if not all) 2 hearts deals.
Most of the others are situational.
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dribson Jan 18, 2018 @ 12:58pm 
Everyone has different preferences, but it all comes down to potential viability and potential risks.

Guppy items are generally always worth it (though for Guppy's Hair Ball, only if it'll be the 3rd item in the transformation)
Anything that can grant more health than is taken away (Abaddon, Ceremonial Robes, Satanic Bible)
Anything that increases damage output without changing tear effects (Abaddon, Death's Touch, Succubus, The Mark)
Various other all-around great items (Void, Guppy's Head, Guppy's Paw, Goat Head/Duality, Rotten Baby, Incubus)

Some items are more situational, however:
Brimstone and Mom's Knife, since they drastically change tear effects, may be much better or much worse for whatever you have now or may find in the future.
Most other active items, in my opinion are decent at best. Picking up any book to finish a Bookworm transformation can be useful.

Some items aren't worth the health, unless you can take other deals to offset the health loss. Items such as Brother Bobby/Sister Maggy, Athame, Betrayal, Empty Vessel, My Shadow, Shade, Dark Princes Crown.

Some items are just bad, and aren't even worth picking up for free (cough cough Plan C cough cough) except for completion reasons.


Like I said, most devil deals come down to preference, and the state of the current run.
RocketPotatoL62 Jan 18, 2018 @ 1:04pm 
experiment with them all since getting them all counts towards your game completion, anything that trades away your health in exchange for soul/black hearts is a benefit in of itself, mom's knife is a good find. But it can be ruined by certain items, and brimstone is almost always a good thing.
ei balls Jan 18, 2018 @ 2:32pm 
Originally posted by Nazemec:
Most (if not all) 2 hearts deals.
Most of the others are situational.
Definitely not all of the 2 heart deals.
Dark Princes Crown is a 2 heart deal.
TheCrap Jan 19, 2018 @ 12:53am 
Originally posted by Jibril:
Anything that can grant more health than is taken away (Abaddon, Ceremonial Robes, Satanic Bible)
Dark Bum, Maw of the Void

Originally posted by Jibril:
Anything that increases damage output without changing tear effects (Abaddon, Death's Touch, Succubus, The Mark)
The Pact and everything else for the Leviatan Transformation

Originally posted by Jibril:
Some items aren't worth the health, unless you can take other deals to offset the health loss. Items such as Brother Bobby/Sister Maggy, Athame, Betrayal, Empty Vessel, My Shadow, Shade, Dark Princes Crown.
Empty Vessel is much better than you might think, it should be in your first point, because it costs 1 red heart and gives 2 black hearts. You can fly without red hearts, which is most of the time you chose the chest-way. You can trigger the effect from blood donation machines and devil baggers. For me it is a 9 out of 10 must-take item
I generally don't like spending HP on items and Most of the time i'll leave the devil room without taking items. Having good items but no health isn't a good deal in my opinion.

I like death touch, scythes are great. Maw of the void in one of my favorite items,i also Like Mark, Succubus and Mom's knife.

If i'm in a Situation needing HP satanic bible and dark bum are great too.
dribson Jan 19, 2018 @ 10:11am 
Originally posted by thecrap:
Originally posted by Jibril:
Anything that can grant more health than is taken away (Abaddon, Ceremonial Robes, Satanic Bible)
Dark Bum, Maw of the Void

Originally posted by Jibril:
Anything that increases damage output without changing tear effects (Abaddon, Death's Touch, Succubus, The Mark)
The Pact and everything else for the Leviatan Transformation

Originally posted by Jibril:
Some items aren't worth the health, unless you can take other deals to offset the health loss. Items such as Brother Bobby/Sister Maggy, Athame, Betrayal, Empty Vessel, My Shadow, Shade, Dark Princes Crown.
Empty Vessel is much better than you might think, it should be in your first point, because it costs 1 red heart and gives 2 black hearts. You can fly without red hearts, which is most of the time you chose the chest-way. You can trigger the effect from blood donation machines and devil baggers. For me it is a 9 out of 10 must-take item


I only listed a few items, but I appreciate the extra examples.
I'd forgotten about Empty Vessel, really only because I never take it. I just remembered vaguely the invincibility effect, since I've only really played The Lost last time I played.
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