What makes afterbirth+ bad?...

[Tyrant]

I am trying to 100% rebirth before i move on to afterbith+, and i noticed a lot of people...Don't like it afterbirth+?...

Is there a logical reason to why it sucks, or is it one of those its TOO HARD so thus its bad?...

[Hache]

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[Pounder]

Not sure about AB+, but, by 100% surely you don't mean platinumgod?

I'm doing a similar thing, beat everything but megasatan I think. But I've already done the same on PS4.

[Ov Å̪e̞oη̣s]

AB+ is fiiiine, the reviews were locked with a bunch of whiners in it. All problems have been patched. just more room patterns to learn, lots of cool items. As for people saying delirium too hard, just choose the best runs to do it with. I did that and have not been killed by it. even with 2 lost kills, once on a fluke normal run doing some other achieves and another on hard, both builds were in the middle grounds.

[str8 up "ghoulin it"]

People thought it "didn't add enough significant content", and at launch some of the items and enemies were...not very fun to use or play against. Most if not all the big problems were fixed, and nowadays I say it's a solid buy, especially if you're into coding/modding.

[Justice]

Poor quality content, very little content, no creativity, lazy ms paint bosses and enemies with very little animation and lack of sound effects, re-colored items sprytes (almost no effort was putten in here), Fake new chapter, new final boss just a white blob, Antibirth better, the price of AB+ DLC unresonable high for all the flaws and lack of content

[Ov Å̪e̞oη̣s]

¯\_(ツ)_/¯ i still have fun and i put in another 200 hours on just dailies and checking out booster packs on a new save file. like i said whiners, comparing something that was worked on for years to something that was only supposed to be mod tools. obviously it would be grand if AB+ and anti could co exist, but who knows when and if that would ever happen.

Some really cool things in the booster packs!

[The Renderer]

Nothing, it isn't bad. It's not as big as AB and so people complained because they wanted more. Is it super great? No. But it's still better than not having it.

[Kosaine]

You should be playing afterbirth+ before you finish rebirth. It's not a sequel. It's just more content to make the game more fun and varied. Highly recommend it.

[Arghaab]

I had a bunch of issues regarding AB+ at launch and gave it a negative review. Later down the road I gave it a positive one, and now I just chose to delete it.

Why the negative? Because it just had too many flaws at launch, wich got fixed at some point. The 2 major ones being the inability for me to 100% the game (since I couldn't do 31 daily runs in a row) and the inability to play with mods without disabling the progression system of the game (wich meant no more Eden runs since you gained no more tokens for her, and also the game didn't keep track of my victory streaks anymore).

I changed my rating to positive when the game got those issues fixed. The reason I finaly decided to delete it is because I got massively disapointed by the release of the booster packs.

Basicaly, they contain stuff that I already had access to using the workshop.
Before the release I could do runs without this content in my game, or with it, depending on my mood of the day. All the release of a booster pack does is removing one of those options, literaly disminishing the amount of content in the game.

That being said, I still love the game !

[xPAINxKINGx]

Originally posted by Ghost Ghost:

I am trying to 100% rebirth before i move on to afterbith+, and i noticed a lot of people...Don't like it afterbirth+?...

Is there a logical reason to why it sucks, or is it one of those its TOO HARD so thus its bad?...

....ummm, you seem like a troll. I mean, juat to post this thread, you must of saw the THOUSANDS of issues simply with bugs and the game not even working, and then under that is people asking about and reporting broken items that crash the game because of the "bosster packs." And those threads are literally just tech support. Finally, you find a few people with balls who point out the many negative changes and differences between AB+ and Afterbirth.

So yeah, it's because This version of Isaac, where you can unlock all achievements using mods, is "too hard." That's totally why people don't like it...and not because it ruined re-rolling, the error room, the uniqueness of the game, etc. and replaced everything with just boring spawners.......

lol yeah, because unlocking and playing as The Lost and Keeper in the old versions was so easy, thats why people like the game, because its easy.
Kid, don't use the word "Logical" or "Reason", when you can't even handle not Everyone liking a game you like.

[Tato]

Originally posted by xPAINxKINGx:

Originally posted by Ghost Ghost:

I am trying to 100% rebirth before i move on to afterbith+, and i noticed a lot of people...Don't like it afterbirth+?...

Is there a logical reason to why it sucks, or is it one of those its TOO HARD so thus its bad?...

....ummm, you seem like a troll. I mean, juat to post this thread, you must of saw the THOUSANDS of issues simply with bugs and the game not even working, and then under that is people asking about and reporting broken items that crash the game because of the "bosster packs." And those threads are literally just tech support. Finally, you find a few people with balls who point out the many negative changes and differences between AB+ and Afterbirth.

So yeah, it's because This version of Isaac, where you can unlock all achievements using mods, is "too hard." That's totally why people don't like it...and not because it ruined re-rolling, the error room, the uniqueness of the game, etc. and replaced everything with just boring spawners.......

lol yeah, because unlocking and playing as The Lost and Keeper in the old versions was so easy, thats why people like the game, because its easy.
Kid, don't use the word "Logical" or "Reason", when you can't even handle not Everyone liking a game you like.

"Youuu seeeee kidddddd.... Gittt gudddd"


@OP
AB+ was incredibly flawed at the beginning, mainly because the fans were so impoverished for new official content, so Nicalis rushed it. That created some very unfun mechanics (mainly the void portals). The reviews, then locked, stayed neutral.
I would recommend AB+ when you've defeated the big boss of Afterbirth Hush.

[guts' theme (Cut & Looped)]

Delirium is terrible, but it allowed modding so it evens out in my book.

[Mewo]

AB+ adds some questionable stuff like badly made delirium fight(I say bad because 1.Its boring 2.I know Youre gonna think Im just a cry baby here,but it is unbalanced and there is much dmg that is unavoidable(even more annoying while trying to do it with someone like the lost)) or his floor which is even worse tbh.Some of the items are interesting but many are either re-sprites or items that do the exact same thing but a little bit diffrent look shard of glass whcih is just an old bandage but without hp up or apple! which just is tough love but with tears up.Even edmund himself said that ab+ is a bit of a mess which I agree,sums it up perfectly.
Edit:
Oh also lazy enemies,like real lazy.Like the thing,its actually just nerve ending sprite + blind creep sprite(pretty sure it didnt even have sound effect when it was launched) or ministro who doesnt even have jump animation.

[JellyPuff]

AB+ is just native mod support at this point. Content alongside it is mostly "okay", but there are a couple of things still left, mostly on the balance side of things, which are just plain annoying (amongst other things, deli imbalance, some bad room layouts, especially in chapter 2, rarity of some encounters for Sin Collector). It also was unfortunate enough to come out right after the much praised Rebirth-only mod/fan expansion "Antibirth".

That monthly booster pack promise wasn't holding up either.

So yeah, AB+ had it rough and still has some issues left, but the mod support alone adds so much more hours to an already great game, that i would still recommend it.

[Tyrant]

Thanks for all the feedback friends, appreciated. So it sounds like AB+ was kind of a diablo 3/Destiny type of game. Not so good on release, but they fixed things down the road making them good games again.