i cant stand the lost in rebirth

[klader3000]

the lost in rebirth just made me lose any passion to play this game after 191 hour of original and 117 hours of rebirth.
no matter how op u become there is this exploding enemy or stray projectile that will end your run and leave your pretty frustrated.

[Blargo]

The Lost was buffed in Afterbirth.
Though that's a scummy thing for the devs to do.

[Dat Frodo]

There are certain items that would cover these weaknesses that the Lost has, even if some of them are fairly rare. If you don't have any DLC there is:

Pyromaniac - Protects you from explosion damage. This also includes mom's + satan's feet.

Orbitals - While not 100% reliable, having three orbitals such as Cube of Meat, Pretty Flies or Sacraficial Dagger (plus BFF if possible) can protect you from more bullets than you realise.

Dead Cat, Guppy's Collar and I-Up - If you do end up dying which you probably will a few times, these will respawn you outside the room and will let you keep going.

Holy Mantle - There's a reason the Lost was given this item permanently in Afterbirth. Sometimes 1 extra hitpoint is all you need to get rid of threats if you have good enough offensive items. Also you get free curse rooms which can get you more amazing items like Dead Cat!

Any Free Devil Deals - Items including Brimstone and Mom's Knife can potentially obliterate enemies before they even get a chance to kill you. But almost every devil deal is worth taking. Unless you're going for Mega Satan, which even still doesn't get you any achievements in the original Rebirth.

But really the main reason why I personally like the Lost is even if you do get the most OP combos in the game, being reckless could lead to your untimely death. So it will take a long while before you have any luck. I personally keep resetting the run until I find an awesome item in the first treasure room but that's just me I guess. Hope this helps :)

[Washing Machine]

Pretty sure most everyone just cheesed it by alt f4ing whenever they died pre-buffs. Doesn't seem to work now, game counts it as death the instant you take the hit that kills you.

Ye it's awful. The game already has achievements for not getting hit. I don't understand the purpose of this character.

[klader3000]

Originally posted by Dat Frodo:

There are certain items that would cover these weaknesses that the Lost has, even if some of them are fairly rare. If you don't have any DLC there is:

Pyromaniac - Protects you from explosion damage. This also includes mom's + satan's feet.

Orbitals - While not 100% reliable, having three orbitals such as Cube of Meat, Pretty Flies or Sacraficial Dagger (plus BFF if possible) can protect you from more bullets than you realise.

Dead Cat, Guppy's Collar and I-Up - If you do end up dying which you probably will a few times, these will respawn you outside the room and will let you keep going.

Holy Mantle - There's a reason the Lost was given this item permanently in Afterbirth. Sometimes 1 extra hitpoint is all you need to get rid of threats if you have good enough offensive items. Also you get free curse rooms which can get you more amazing items like Dead Cat!

Any Free Devil Deals - Items including Brimstone and Mom's Knife can potentially obliterate enemies before they even get a chance to kill you. But almost every devil deal is worth taking. Unless you're going for Mega Satan, which even still doesn't get you any achievements in the original Rebirth.

But really the main reason why I personally like the Lost is even if you do get the most OP combos in the game, being reckless could lead to your untimely death. So it will take a long while before you have any luck. I personally keep resetting the run until I find an awesome item in the first treasure room but that's just me I guess. Hope this helps :)

that's the problem , even if he need someone with good skill , he is still so luck based and to keep resetting the game to get a good starting item is so boring , it what made me lose interest in the game , i don't even feel like i will play the DLC as i hear people say it gets even more ridiculous with the keeper
Actually the Lost made me apperticate how good and balanced the Original was.

[Amelouth]

Waaaaaaaaaahhhh The Lost sooooooooooooooo hard - Rebirth
Waaaaaaaaaahhhh The Keeper sooooooooooooo hard - Afterbirth
Waaaaaaaaaahhhh the two are sooooooooooooo hard - AB+

Resume of every comment I see about this particular topic.

Pre Mantel + Spectral Shots buff was hard as nails but it made you play better.
AB was a step better which made it to new players to the lost a little bit more manageable, but then people started to complain about Keeper. They have their strategies which make them challenging and actually make you good. Not because I ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ hate the living ♥♥♥♥ of Apollyon I will make a discussion explaining why I ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ hate that character in particular.

[klader3000]

Originally posted by Trade commends (Going down):

Waaaaaaaaaahhhh The Lost sooooooooooooooo hard - Rebirth
Waaaaaaaaaahhhh The Keeper sooooooooooooo hard - Afterbirth
Waaaaaaaaaahhhh the two are sooooooooooooo hard - AB+

Resume of every comment I see about this particular topic.

Pre Mantel + Spectral Shots buff was hard as nails but it made you play better.
AB was a step better which made it to new players to the lost a little bit more manageable, but then people started to complain about Keeper. They have their strategies which make them challenging and actually make you good. Not because I ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ hate the living ♥♥♥♥ of Apollyon I will make a discussion explaining why I ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ hate that character in particular.

Actually, i just had a run that proved to me that the Lost is all about Luck.
I got D4,Holy Mantle,9 Lives,Daddy Long Legs,Stop Watch,Death Touch,Cricket's Head and i finished Boss Rush , Issac and blue baby in one go

[Amelouth]

Originally posted by klader3000:

Originally posted by Trade commends (Going down):

Waaaaaaaaaahhhh The Lost sooooooooooooooo hard - Rebirth
Waaaaaaaaaahhhh The Keeper sooooooooooooo hard - Afterbirth
Waaaaaaaaaahhhh the two are sooooooooooooo hard - AB+

Resume of every comment I see about this particular topic.

Pre Mantel + Spectral Shots buff was hard as nails but it made you play better.
AB was a step better which made it to new players to the lost a little bit more manageable, but then people started to complain about Keeper. They have their strategies which make them challenging and actually make you good. Not because I ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ hate the living ♥♥♥♥ of Apollyon I will make a discussion explaining why I ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ hate that character in particular.

Actually, i just had a run that proved to me that the Lost is all about Luck.
I got D4,Holy Mantle,9 Lives,Daddy Long Legs,Stop Watch,Death Touch,Cricket's Head and i finished Boss Rush , Issac and blue baby in one go

If you got lucky, that is perfect. I had to learn how to use him in order to finish him pre mantel (rebirth).

[klader3000]

Originally posted by Cool Doge:

If you beat isaac as teh lost you'll unlock isaac's heart which spawns a heart when the heart is hurt you'll get hurt if you get lucky to have breath of life you'll have infinite invulnerability as long as breath of life is activated which is good for the lost

Originally posted by Cool Doge:

Or blood rights for alot of damage in the room at the cost of nothing be aware you still die as the lost which explains you should still doge-dodge

this is actually a pretty good tip , thank you

[Extremi]

Balance is the binding of isaac? Really? The lost is challenge character,Also just buy afterbirth and donate to the greed machine

[klader3000]

Originally posted by IEKSI Imextremi:

Balance is the binding of isaac? Really? The lost is challenge character,Also just buy afterbirth and donate to the greed machine

Yeah, there were balance in BOI , the original BOI without WOTL you could finish it(it ended at issac i think) without taking any item its mundane but possible.

Nvm, i just got all completion marks of the lost in rebirth , it was possible after all.

[Amelouth]

Originally posted by klader3000:

Originally posted by IEKSI Imextremi:

Balance is the binding of isaac? Really? The lost is challenge character,Also just buy afterbirth and donate to the greed machine

Yeah, there were balance in BOI , the original BOI without WOTL you could finish it(it ended at issac i think) without taking any item its mundane but possible.

Nvm, i just got all completion marks of the lost in rebirth , it was possible after all.

Anything with time can be done. Just keeep going
Also congratz

[klader3000]

Originally posted by Trade commends (Going down):

Originally posted by klader3000:

Yeah, there were balance in BOI , the original BOI without WOTL you could finish it(it ended at issac i think) without taking any item its mundane but possible.

Nvm, i just got all completion marks of the lost in rebirth , it was possible after all.

Anything with time can be done. Just keeep going
Also congratz

Thanks , when i turned into guppy , i knew this run will probably end in victory :))))))