Donation Machine Missing In Shops?

[Borg Rectangle]

I just upgraded to Afterbirth+ and I have no donation machines in my shops. Is this a glitch? Is there a way to fix this?

Your help will be greatly appreciated.

[Laxstroganoff]

do you play a seed or a challange? if so there is no machine.

[Borg Rectangle]

No callenge, just regular run. I've even verified the game files integrity.

[Skullomania]

I think the donation machine is also removed while you have mods running. (I hope that gets changed)

[Batabii • Suikoden I&II HD]

Originally posted by Skullomania:

I think the donation machine is also removed while you have mods running. (I hope that gets changed)

1. add a mod that increases coin drops
2. spam donation machine
3. ???
4. CHEAT!

[Rougheredge]

Originally posted by Batabii - No, don't touch that!:

Originally posted by Skullomania:

I think the donation machine is also removed while you have mods running. (I hope that gets changed)

1. add a mod that increases coin drops
2. spam donation machine
3. ???
4. CHEAT!

The fact remains that you get locked out of game content for using mods. If a few people want to cheat, let them cheat. Instead it's ruined for the rest of us.

[Batabii • Suikoden I&II HD]

Originally posted by Rougheredge:

Originally posted by Batabii - No, don't touch that!:

1. add a mod that increases coin drops
2. spam donation machine
3. ???
4. CHEAT!

The fact remains that you get locked out of game content for using mods. If a few people want to cheat, let them cheat. Instead it's ruined for the rest of us.

1. "ruined"? Why can't you play without mods until you get the stores finished?
2. Edmund has stated he's looking into making purely cosmetic mods (like music) still allow achievements.

[Flavorable]

You know, I wonder...

How did any of you ever play this game without the mods, man?

It's funny how people suddenly can't play a game without something they haven't even had access to for years on end.

[Nazemec]

Originally posted by Flavorable:

It's funny how people suddenly can't play a game without something they haven't even had access to for years on end.

Mods exist since Rebirth. You should check moddingofisaac.com someday. ;-)

But you're right, old mods still work if you manage properly the game files. Only the mod menu (and LUA support) is new, and it's the only thing that prevents progress. Old modding method doesn't.

[Flavorable]

Originally posted by Nazemec:

Originally posted by Flavorable:

It's funny how people suddenly can't play a game without something they haven't even had access to for years on end.

Mods exist since Rebirth. You should check moddingofisaac.com someday. ;-)

But you're right, old mods still work if you manage properly the game files. Only the mod menu (and LUA support) is new, and it's the only thing that prevents progress. Old modding method doesn't.

I know modding has been there for a long time. But before the AB+ update, we called it cheating for those who used it to unlock things.

And now, it'd still be cheating if the workshop mods allowed unlocks.

People should just accept the fact that quite obviously, the Devs don't intend for you (you as in the people, not you specifically) to use mods to get the easy wins.

Either way, my point was to sarcastically comment on the guy who said the game was "ruined" for the rest of them.

The game hasn't been changed in any way, which was my point.

[Nazemec]

Originally posted by Flavorable:

Originally posted by Nazemec:

Mods exist since Rebirth. You should check moddingofisaac.com someday. ;-)

But you're right, old mods still work if you manage properly the game files. Only the mod menu (and LUA support) is new, and it's the only thing that prevents progress. Old modding method doesn't.

I know modding has been there for a long time. But before the AB+ update, we called it cheating for those who used it to unlock things.

And now, it'd still be cheating if the workshop mods allowed unlocks.

People should just accept the fact that quite obviously, the Devs don't intend for you (you as in the people, not you specifically) to use mods to get the easy wins.

Either way, my point was to sarcastically comment on the guy who said the game was "ruined" for the rest of them.

The game hasn't been changed in any way, which was my point.

Thanks for the clarification. :P

[Flavorable]

Originally posted by Nazemec:

Originally posted by Flavorable:

I know modding has been there for a long time. But before the AB+ update, we called it cheating for those who used it to unlock things.

And now, it'd still be cheating if the workshop mods allowed unlocks.

People should just accept the fact that quite obviously, the Devs don't intend for you (you as in the people, not you specifically) to use mods to get the easy wins.

Either way, my point was to sarcastically comment on the guy who said the game was "ruined" for the rest of them.

The game hasn't been changed in any way, which was my point.

Thanks for the clarification. :P

Lol, NP, man. :)

[Rougheredge]

Originally posted by Flavorable:

Originally posted by Nazemec:

Mods exist since Rebirth. You should check moddingofisaac.com someday. ;-)

But you're right, old mods still work if you manage properly the game files. Only the mod menu (and LUA support) is new, and it's the only thing that prevents progress. Old modding method doesn't.

I know modding has been there for a long time. But before the AB+ update, we called it cheating for those who used it to unlock things.

And now, it'd still be cheating if the workshop mods allowed unlocks.

People should just accept the fact that quite obviously, the Devs don't intend for you (you as in the people, not you specifically) to use mods to get the easy wins.

Either way, my point was to sarcastically comment on the guy who said the game was "ruined" for the rest of them.

The game hasn't been changed in any way, which was my point.

That's the problem, the game hasn't changed. I haven't played with mods at all even though the game added support for it cause it locks you out of basically the entire rest of the game.

and for the record, I didn't say the game was ruined, that's completely ignoring the context of what I said and latching onto to one word. My point was using mods locks you out of game content, even as small as it is donation machines and acievements are part of the game and it makes it hard to play mods with these constant reminders in the form of that little icon, the lack of donation machines, and of course, the fact you CAN'T MAKE ANY PROGRESS IN THE GAME.

Is it a large amount of content? (apart from that last one, which certainly is) No. Does that change the fact there's no good reason to lock people out of any of it just for using mods? Yes. Mods are there to make a game better, to give it to the community to improve. But they're forcing you to play the game their way or you can't make any progress. Sure, you can 100% the game AND then play modded runs but I want to use mods immediately. Especially since there's a lot of stuff in the game that's arguably poorly balanced that mods can fix (which is part of why we have mods in the first place) that I wouldn't feel is "cheating" to use, and considering this is a SINGLEPLAYER game it shouldn't matter.

[Borg Rectangle]

So then, the game ISN"T broken, I'm just getting CONSTANTLY stymied by TBOI?

Harsh.

[Rougheredge]

Originally posted by Borg Rectangle:

So then, the game ISN"T broken, I'm just getting CONSTANTLY stymied by TBOI?

Harsh.

Basically, they've said they plan on perhaps finding a way to make to make that not happen with visual mods, so if they find a way to do that it'd be a start. Personally, I don't agree with how it works at all but what can you do other then give feedback?

[Borg Rectangle]

it's not that I have no visual for the donation machine, it's not even there at all. I had it before the update, now I have nothing. No shop. I'm not believing that I'm not getting ANY donation machine on EVERY floor. That would be sadistic!