Known issue with d4?

[Vahnkiljoy]

Ran into an issue during a really nice run in coop with the d4, after many repeated uses, like 4+, the game would BREAK and leave us with 4 items until the next floor, anyone else run into this? Can't say I had this happen PRE AB+.

[mudkipslike [G.M]]

You ran out of items in the item pool and everything probably transformed into breakfast.

[The Mad Doctor]

Originally posted by mudkipslike:

You ran out of items in the item pool and everything probably transformed into breakfast.

[Vimeyer]

I have just faced this problem. but with using the d100.

[Vimeyer]

There weren't only breakfast. There were also number one, halo of flies and something else.

[Erebus]

Originally posted by Vimeyer:

There weren't only breakfast. There were also number one, halo of flies and something else.

Maybe the only items left in the pool?

[Vahnkiljoy]

I thought it was just randomly choosing items and throwing them in the slots you had, so, even if it hit the 'item list' cap, that doesn't explain why it REMOVES all but like 5 items from you.

[Vimeyer]

Originally posted by Vahnkiljoy:

why it REMOVES all but like 5 items from you.

good question!

[mudkipslike [G.M]]

When rerolling the d4 or d100 enough times it tries to use another item from that item pool and sometimes it can't find what it wants because it was already used previously. Thus why you get breakfast and sometimes other items because those could be rerolled to.

[Vahnkiljoy]

Why can't ALL items(in the pool) be rerolled though, that's the whole damn point to that use item last I checked.

[mudkipslike [G.M]]

Two reasons actually :
1st : Some items in the pool are space bar items so they can't appear. (This however is moot to the topic at hand)
2nd : The game keeps track of what "special item" you got first so the other "special items" don't spawn as frequently. This is to prevent you from getting say 20/20 , inner eye, and quad shot. The d4 and d100 still have to follow that rule so some items just never get a chance to spawn ever.

[Erebus]

Originally posted by mudkipslike:

Two reasons actually :
1st : Some items in the pool are space bar items so they can't appear. (This however is moot to the topic at hand)
2nd : The game keeps track of what "special item" you got first so the other "special items" don't spawn as frequently. This is to prevent you from getting say 20/20 , inner eye, and quad shot. The d4 and d100 still have to follow that rule so some items just never get a chance to spawn ever.

I wish the game didn't have so many rules about what can and can't show up. It'd be more fun if it was a little more chaotic imo.

[Vimeyer]

Originally posted by mudkipslike:

Two reasons actually :
1st : Some items in the pool are space bar items so they can't appear. (This however is moot to the topic at hand)
2nd : The game keeps track of what "special item" you got first so the other "special items" don't spawn as frequently. This is to prevent you from getting say 20/20 , inner eye, and quad shot. The d4 and d100 still have to follow that rule so some items just never get a chance to spawn ever.

No, this is a wrong point. I found a lot passive items (like Athame or holy sword) after d100 had broken my game. And with new passive items d100 didn't work properly: it vanished all my items except that 4-5 things.
Also laser tears and mom's knife appeared 3 times after rerolling!