"It's the key"-Achievement; What counts as "taking" hearts/coins/bombs?

[Eranell]

Well, yeah. Question above. Have I failed the achievement when picking up items that give me a heart container or something like Bob's Curse?

I dont like it when the context is unclear.

The wiki doesn't give me the answer so might as well try it here.

[Arghaab]

You can't pick them up from the ground. Everything else is fine.

Like, items that generate health/bombs/coins are fine, but with items like squeezy that spawns hearts on the ground, you can't pick those hearts.

And remember that your target is The Lamb ofc.

[Flavorable]

It's specifically the consumables.

No consumable bombs (but for example 2 of clubs is fine)

No consumable hearts, be it (for clarity) red, blue, white or black (but for example 2 of hearts is fine)

No consumable coins (but, you guessed it. for example 2 of diamonds is just fine).

[Eranell]

So, no soul/black hearts either? I expected as much. But stuff like Bob's Curse, Satanic Bible and stuff like dessert and dinner seems to be fine, right? Well, thanks for the quick response then :)

[Flavorable]

Originally posted by glad0s:

So, no soul/black hearts either? I expected as much. But stuff like Bob's Curse, Satanic Bible and stuff like dessert and dinner seems to be fine, right? Well, thanks for the quick response then :)

Yup, exactly. :)

Not a problem, and good luck!

I didn't get the challenge because a coin fell on my head 2 rooms before I reached the Lamb xD

[Arghaab]

Originally posted by glad0s:

So, no soul/black hearts either? I expected as much. But stuff like Bob's Curse, Satanic Bible and stuff like dessert and dinner seems to be fine, right? Well, thanks for the quick response then :)

Exactly !

I did it with The Lost personaly. You don't care about the heart thing, and Devil Deals are free so you will end up with an almost regular run.

Also, with The Lost, bombs are way less important since you don't care that much about tinted rocks.

[benjineel]

I found Maggy (after the speed pill of course) my go to for this challenge due to the Yum Heart, but the Lost is a suprisingly good option.

[Eranell]

Originally posted by Arghaab:

Originally posted by glad0s:

So, no soul/black hearts either? I expected as much. But stuff like Bob's Curse, Satanic Bible and stuff like dessert and dinner seems to be fine, right? Well, thanks for the quick response then :)

Exactly !

I did it with The Lost personaly. You don't care about the Heart thing, and Devil Deals are free so you will end up with an almost regular run.

Also, with The Lost, bombs are way less important since you don't care that much about tinted rocks.

I thought about doing it with The Lost, too. Tried it two times with Azazel but died both times in the Dark Room and you can easily exploit the fact that you are the lost in many ways.

Dang it! There I though I would never have to lay a finger on The Lost again (besides dailys). Already defeated Delirium with him (with a bit of cheating to be honest and loads of luck), thus having all completion marks with him.

[Mrgotmilk]

Who should I try to do it as if I don't have The Lost?

[Banr]

Originally posted by Mrgotmilk:

Who should I try to do it as if I don't have The Lost?

Try Azazel, you can also use the seed G0NE S00N to make pickups disappear after a few seconds.

[Alice (Moth)]

Originally posted by Banr:

Originally posted by Mrgotmilk:

Who should I try to do it as if I don't have The Lost?

Try Azazel, you can also use the seed G0NE S00N to make pickups disappear after a few seconds.

seeds disable achievements

[Banr]

Originally posted by YourAreAnPerson:

seeds disable achievements

Not that one.

[Mrgotmilk]

Originally posted by Banr:

Originally posted by YourAreAnPerson:

seeds disable achievements

Not that one.

I'm not having trouble NOT picking up items... I'm having trouble staying alive without being able to pick hearts up :(

[Meman82]

beat this with azael and getting satanic bible

[Daemonologist]

Originally posted by Mrgotmilk:

Originally posted by Banr:

Not that one.

I'm not having trouble NOT picking up items... I'm having trouble staying alive without being able to pick hearts up :(

1: Find an item that directly gives hearts (not as drops) - the nail/satanic bible/book of revelations are especially good options, but the yum heart and numerous +health passive items are also quite useful. Full health/Balls of steel pills are also very useful.
2: Protective items such as orbitals and invulnerability granting items/effects are very useful too
3: Get better at dodging enemies and their projectiles calm calculated movement every so often is often better than just constantly moving unless there's a chaser almost right on top of you. Hit and run tactics are totally a viable strategy in some rooms as well.