Synergy a mechanic that needs more work

[void336]

Let me tell you an all to common story. I was playing binding of isaac an had gotten some awesome items. The core of my run were ipecac and libra, resulting in rapid fire explosive tears.
Then I go into an item room and pick up an item that I couldn't identify, that item was Ludovico Technique. After that my sure win run was ruined because Ludovico Technique overides ipecac and the two dont synergize.

For those who are waiting for the point of all this, I will tell you now. Synergys as a game mechanic are flawed. Not flawed in a buggy sense but flawed in the sense that they are not fully implemented.

Now comes the important part. The binding of isaac afterbirth+ is supose to give us long term support and content updates. In those future updates I belive that rather then adding new items to a game that has a hell of a lot of them already it would be more beneficial to add less items and more synergys. For example why cant brimstone + ipecac create an explotion that travels across the room like a beam. Why cant moms knife + dr fetus make the knife drop a lit bomb one time each time you throw it and it deals damage. And indead why can't ipecac + Ludovico Technique create and explosive remote projectile that can blow up repeatedly.

Ok, I think you get the idea. Really I am just puting this on the forum in the hope that in gains some consideration. If you can think of anymore synergys that don't currently work, please tell us what you might want that synergy to do if more synergys are added to the game. Hopefully the Dev team will take a look at this thread if it gains some attention.

If you have read this far then thank you reading

[Batabii • Suikoden I&II HD]

Origineel geplaatst door DЁFTOЙЁS:

Origineel geplaatst door void336:

I remember the original Isaac. Synergys did naturaly happen with some items but they were only expanded into a full on game mechanic with isaac rebirth.

Also I have seen the latest patch notes and if they continue to work on synergys like they have with most of the ones that I saw then I will be happy. The only exeption that I saw being ipecac becuse adding +4 damage when ipecac is overwriten is not as powerful or as much fun as ipecac on its own. Maybe this was a quick fix and with be altered again in future.

Yeah, it's like they were limited in the original

That's because they were by the flash it was programmed in. By the way I didn't quote that part but bypassing the word filter is against the rules

[Phaper]

Origineel geplaatst door void336:

Let me tell you an all to common story. I was playing binding of isaac an had gotten some awesome items. The core of my run were ipecac and libra, resulting in rapid fire explosive tears.
Then I go into an item room and pick up an item that I couldn't identify, that item was Ludovico Technique. After that my sure win run was ruined because Ludovico Technique overides ipecac and the two dont synergize.

You had two items that didn't synergize.

That doesn't mean the way synergies are implemented into the game is incomplete or bad. It means you don't like the way synergies are implemented into the game.

[void336]

Origineel geplaatst door Phaper:

Origineel geplaatst door void336:

Let me tell you an all to common story. I was playing binding of isaac an had gotten some awesome items. The core of my run were ipecac and libra, resulting in rapid fire explosive tears.
Then I go into an item room and pick up an item that I couldn't identify, that item was Ludovico Technique. After that my sure win run was ruined because Ludovico Technique overides ipecac and the two dont synergize.

You had two items that didn't synergize.

That doesn't mean the way synergies are implemented into the game is incomplete or bad. It means you don't like the way synergies are implemented into the game.

Its not that I have a problem with synergies as a whole. Its that certain items do not produce new effects when combined. Also while I did say that the synergy mechanic is incomplete I didn't say It was bad. I like the mechanic but as long as there are items that are not mutualy exclusive and do not produce a synergy then I don't think that the synergy mechanic is complete. That said I am not expecting the dev team to do a major overhaul of the mechanic. All I want is for a few new synergies to be added with each new patch so that the synergy mechanic will grow closer to completion over time.

[Rio]

Ipecac + Ludovico Technique would be pretty awful. It would be like ludo + fire mind except the tear would always explode on contact with something.

Knife + Dr fetus. Would probably be you shoot 1 knife that explodes on enemy contact. Or you shoot a pointed bomb that can do contact damage

Brimstone + ipecac worked fine together until AB+ destroyed them. A synergy of them would probably be travels like brimestone until it hits an enemy or rock and then explodes. Or fires a mega explosive tear in a straight line with infinite range + visual effect.

Either way ipecac still kinda sucks in AB+ (Though not nearly as much as it did since big horn lost his boss armor)

[Batabii • Suikoden I&II HD]

Origineel geplaatst door Sashie:

Knife + Dr fetus. Would probably be you shoot 1 knife that explodes on enemy contact. Or you shoot a pointed bomb that can do contact damage

Doesn't it just make bombs that explode into knives?

Brimstone + ipecac worked fine together until AB+ destroyed them

Doesn't that just make ipecac shots fire while charging brimstone?

Either way ipecac still kinda sucks in AB+ (Though not nearly as much as it did since big horn lost his boss armor)

aw come on I love ipecac even more now that there's so many ways to avoid or outright negate damage, especially with soy milk :D

[Rio]

Bombs that explode into knives is Knife + sad bombs.

[Batabii • Suikoden I&II HD]

Origineel geplaatst door Sashie:

Bombs that explode into knives is Knife + sad bombs.

Actually, the wiki says for Epic Fetus each explosion shoots 10 knives in a circle from the point of impact, and Dr. Fetus just fires both at once. But that's only in Afterbirth and AB+, not Rebirth.