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Moses Dec 8, 2024 @ 11:17am
The M16A4 is the worst gun any game has ever seen
What are you thinking with this? The burst mode does the exact same amount of damage as single fire, with a fraction of the fire rate. The single fire already does zero damage, it's literally 10-15 landed shots for anyone to die with single fire.

What purpose does this gun serve? With 10 million people sniping every match (snipers should be banned from ALL games btw), how are you supposed to take someone out that has to land a single shot, while you have to land 10-15? Single fire guns are supposed to be counters to snipers to a degree, but you clearly didn't know that. What area is this gun supposed to dominate in? Long range you're easily taken out, close to medium range any spray gun will easily take you out because it does just as much damage per shot, and has 10x the fire rate.

Single shot guns have no role in this game, the only people you can kill are people who don't know you're there and you can land the ludicrous number of shots it takes to kill them, or people who have very low health.

In order for this gun to be viable you need to get kills with four body shots, or two head shots....otherwise just remove it, it has no purpose.
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Heard, chef. Dec 8, 2024 @ 1:57pm 
Weak bait
Gamejunky05 Dec 8, 2024 @ 2:08pm 
The other guns need to be nerfed they really feel off. too much damage laser beams.
とうきょう Dec 8, 2024 @ 2:17pm 
Originally posted by Gamejunky05:
The other guns need to be nerfed they really feel off. too much damage laser beams.
No they dont... Please dont tell me that if you get hit with 5.56 you die and if you get hit with 10mm or 9mm you survive... The damage is adequate, I dare to say it needs to be upped by 50% cuz the guns dont feel real and its more like an airsoft battle... Ammo does the damage, not the size of the gun... Size of the gun tells you how accurate your round is and how far it can go, not how much damage it does to body LOL...

And as for the OP, its not the gun, its the fact that the game is dominated by 90% cheaters as of now and that makes all guns feel like garbage...
Noodlesocks Dec 8, 2024 @ 2:19pm 
Remove the scope and use a 1x sight. The gun on burst fire deletes people, even at range.
Moses Dec 8, 2024 @ 2:37pm 
Originally posted by Noodlesocks:
Remove the scope and use a 1x sight. The gun on burst fire deletes people, even at range.

Then it's clear you've never actually used it. At range you do 12-13 damage, for both burst or single. It deletes nothing, all it does is increase recoil and slow down your fire rate.
Moses Dec 8, 2024 @ 2:37pm 
Originally posted by Heard, chef.:
Weak bait

All this means these days is you can't refute what's being said so you go with the tired "bait" nonsense. Put together a coherent thought for the first time in your life and get back to me.
Noodlesocks Dec 8, 2024 @ 3:37pm 
Originally posted by Moses:
Originally posted by Noodlesocks:
Remove the scope and use a 1x sight. The gun on burst fire deletes people, even at range.

Then it's clear you've never actually used it. At range you do 12-13 damage, for both burst or single. It deletes nothing, all it does is increase recoil and slow down your fire rate.

Sorry to hear you're not finding luck with the weapon. I've been using it almost exclusively since the beta tests. I use parts specifically to improve recoil and stability, calibrating each part individually to further improve recoil and stability. How I have the gun set up right now, even rapid fire burst, there's practically no recoil. Like firing a laser. I never use it on single shot though. There's no need, really.

Also, don't forget to hold shift when shooting. It will reduce sway and recoil too.

Here is the loadout code for the configuration I have right now. It doesn't have everything unlocked that I would normally use but this is what I run if you want ot give it a try:

M16A4 Assault Rifle-Warfare-6ELHFBO0AU6SQQO2G2ISG
Last edited by Noodlesocks; Dec 8, 2024 @ 4:28pm
Plata0Plomo Dec 8, 2024 @ 3:46pm 
the only M16A4 that not feel like ♥♥♥♥ on a shooter is the BF3-BF4 ones the same way that the only good AN-94 burst mode of any game is on BF3

and yes there is a lot of weapons that are so below the meta that not worth invest the time to lvl up at the end like every shooter all the people will run the same 5 guns with the same attachments config all the time i like to call it "the fantasy of choice" and have been on shooters since alwais

for me the best job of balance is BF3 and BF4 you have the dumb guns the M16A3 ( BF3 full auto), ACE Family (BF4) that are laser beams but the AEK-971 or M16A4 and the AN-94 on burst are better if you learn the recoil pattern or the perfect timing of burst that reward more skilled players that trained their muscular memory

here not just the faster ttk are the lasers and some of the lower ttks are ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ with the dispersion -recoil pattern the devs tried to balance it making the high RPM weapons have a ♥♥♥♥ damage drop off but that just make the guns feel so weak on middle- long range
Last edited by Plata0Plomo; Dec 8, 2024 @ 4:00pm
DDRMANIAC007 Dec 8, 2024 @ 4:20pm 
In the alpha I used it with a 3.5x scope set up for long range plinking with the burst fire on a 1x helping in closer ranges.
GramsAndOunces Dec 13, 2024 @ 5:23pm 
I am sure my M16 fires blanks, had to back out of a game for first time and switch it off before.
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Date Posted: Dec 8, 2024 @ 11:17am
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