Operations PvE only mode.

[Kosm1cznY]

Would be cool to have extra mode to be PvE only.

AI is capable in this game to provide fun.
If there would be also optional tweaks to AI like how often they talk, move, run, patrol etc. Their initial aim, burst frequency/accuracy/spread, auto fire percentage etc. this would make awesome fun for people that do not want to participate in PvP for millions of reasons.

If DEV want instead force everybody to PvP then for sure I am out (also if no mag system is implemented like in ABI and EFT). But was fun to test this game for free especially to see how good game development is made in terms of performance.

I was pretty surprised to play PvE mode against 60+ AI bots with graphisc set by default to ULTRA (prefere more to reduce most to high, still nice graphics less rare drops below 60 FPS) where I only disabled DLSS, upscaling and still get solid, stable 60 FPS on my aged gaming PC where damn BSG cannot make proper game, where their EFT is damn stutter mess in PvE against more than 6 AI in SPT or on AI numbers on low setting in training mode in official game. especially on damn streets map on top of pathetic washed out graphics where scene contrast is like picture on 1000 times washed T-shirt. No proper lighting, shadows etc.

BSG you suck so badly and such games as ABI and DF shows that BSG is nothing more but money grab and dev skill failure (cheap labor??)

BSG finally swapped to slightly younger UNITY 2022 in patch 0.16 slightly renewed engine... But it seem another of their scam! Nothing changed! Not visually even a bit! And the worst part that performance is trash as it was before!!! Seriously it seem that they lied to people that they now use 2022. What a pile of liars!

Many normal dev teams are able to swap game engines pretty fast as history shows. Even 1 dev team are able to swap from one engine to another engine (example "Road To Rostock") with not to much sweat. But BSG is special... Different... No they are just bunch of scam artists!

But ok this is offtopic a bit. Anyway I am hugely impressed by DF game performance. It would be cool to chill in single player mode in Exfil Operations.

But this to happen, lots of people would needed to ask for such mode as for this game dev team is not interested to add this mode, but at least anybody can have fun in warfare mode against AI but not to much as sadly this mode gets boring. Still good to get familliar with gameplay, test loadouts etc.

One thing also I would like to have more believable gameplay mode for character movement as by default there is zero logic in character movement. It is like controlling 1 Kg sheel that looks like human. Recoil system is also very bad, like shooting BB toys. Would be cool to have mod for this but I doubt it will be possible as this game is always online requirement. But custom mode for PvE with some sliders in game for recoil multiplier, bullet spread etc would be great. To many people have different taste so it is impossible to fit them all. So tweaking options for PvE mode would be the best way to please almost everybody.
Those who like Warfare and basic Operations would have their fun still but if there would be PvE + slider options to tweak gameplay experience that would be just a blast to have.

Othervise many players in near future will move on (me included) as by default gameplay mechanics are not my cup of tea.

Will such message, strong enought to reach DEV team of this game, be possible? Well we need more voices then they will hear us for sure.

[Izny]

Originalmente postado por Patient#8326:

I couldn't agree more on the PvE part.

Thing is, about 20 years ago, they had another Delta Force game. The company that made it also made JOIC if I'm not mistaken and there were tons of PvP and PvE maps.

The cool part, they had an engine where you could make PvP maps and PvE (waypoints as flags or waypoints that started bot movement, level of accuracy, and even having them fly a helo to attack players was easily done) was really cool.

yes, with the NILE level editor. it was clunky, but it was awesome. Joint Operations is still king.

[SidCZ]

yea.. i need pure PvE too, cuz I am tired to be dead, after 2 minutes after landing, with gear (provided by ticket), cuz another player have better gear..

[Nozdormuss]

Theres already PVE mode in Operations most of your companions "Behave" Weird... and the enemy "players" Behave much more RARE

[★BigShot★]

Originalmente postado por Nozdormuss:

Theres already PVE mode in Operations

No, there isn't. Not yet.

Next month there will be a mission based PvE mode released (not same as extraction) but they have not yet revealed anything publicly to lead us to believe there will be a PvE mode that mirrors Operations Extraction game-play.

[rorybreaker70]

It makes no sense to make a PVE "competitive extraction" mode. The whole idea of extraction and competition is that you have people literally breathing down your neck to take your stuff. It is the most realistic element you can have in a game design, and this is coming from a 54 year old console guy who built a PC and made this the first game I learned M&K on. I wanted to quit but I am level 18 now have made solo runs to complete keycard puzzles and ran some games with some shooters and got out with good loot. I've spent less than 9 hours actually in game more time in menus, but if I have learned from this game that if you quit, you don't get better.

PVE extraction really isn't that plausible, you would have to completely separate PVE from PVP because it would be rather unfair to let you hop into PVP after obtaining your wealth in PVE.



One of the biggest issues I see in this game is too much aggro and not enough cautious movement and communication. Most of the streamers who cover this are in teams of guys they can count. I find myself on teams with guys that want to push people and it turns disastrous because its not COD. The goal is to extract without loss, the gravy is extraction with good loot.

You're not gonna be a 50/50 player in a game like this. Most of the dominant players are probs 35-40% successful on raids and that is the top of the game, if you're not cheating.

This is a game that takes time and investment to grow in. Too many people want to hop on and dominate due to watching streamers that they don't dig into the game. If you start smart and research the dynamics of the game you learn to use more of the resources for gaining that are afforded you that don't involve raiding,

Black Hawk Down will allow some to get their PVE fix but I don't think PVE extraction is worth it, because I will know after a playthrough where the bot danger is, making extraction super easy, and again, why separate the player base or force management of 2 separate stashes in PVE/PVP. it makes NO sense. You cannot allow the stash to work outside of the game mode it was built in or it will make the PVP players efforts a complete waste of time.

[ah, salmonn]

+1

nobody needs pvp anymore since we already had UFC and cod

[artem-klim]

+1

[Rosalina]

I hate the operation only events so much. The mode is absolutely no fun. I cant understand how people play that religiously.
PvE mode would fix that for me.

[Korva]

Originalmente postado por rorybreaker70:

It makes no sense to make a PVE "competitive extraction" mode. The whole idea of extraction and competition is that you have people literally breathing down your neck to take your stuff. It is the most realistic element you can have in a game design, and this is coming from a 54 year old console guy who built a PC and made this the first game I learned M&K on. I wanted to quit but I am level 18 now have made solo runs to complete keycard puzzles and ran some games with some shooters and got out with good loot. I've spent less than 9 hours actually in game more time in menus, but if I have learned from this game that if you quit, you don't get better.

PVE extraction really isn't that plausible, you would have to completely separate PVE from PVP because it would be rather unfair to let you hop into PVP after obtaining your wealth in PVE.



One of the biggest issues I see in this game is too much aggro and not enough cautious movement and communication. Most of the streamers who cover this are in teams of guys they can count. I find myself on teams with guys that want to push people and it turns disastrous because its not COD. The goal is to extract without loss, the gravy is extraction with good loot.

You're not gonna be a 50/50 player in a game like this. Most of the dominant players are probs 35-40% successful on raids and that is the top of the game, if you're not cheating.

This is a game that takes time and investment to grow in. Too many people want to hop on and dominate due to watching streamers that they don't dig into the game. If you start smart and research the dynamics of the game you learn to use more of the resources for gaining that are afforded you that don't involve raiding,

Black Hawk Down will allow some to get their PVE fix but I don't think PVE extraction is worth it, because I will know after a playthrough where the bot danger is, making extraction super easy, and again, why separate the player base or force management of 2 separate stashes in PVE/PVP. it makes NO sense. You cannot allow the stash to work outside of the game mode it was built in or it will make the PVP players efforts a complete waste of time.

PvE is more than plausible. Separating PvP and PvE is naturally the way to go and naturally those two modes never mix down the line. This leads to PvPvE players losing nothing and PvE players gaining a whole game mode to play. We all know majority of those players dont play PvPvE anyway.

PvE works in Tarkov like a charm. Whole modding scene making it the game people wanted it to be. IRR is shaping up awesome too. Only natural Delta Force takes this road too as a softcore extraction singleplayer.

[Pakle]

I would pay for a separated progression extraction pve mode in delta force, I'm not going to touch PVP

[barps]

me and my buddies will play the game once there is a Coop PvE mode for Operations.

[barps]

just made a new post about the same thing with all the pros, I really believe a Coop PvE in Operations is possible as of now, we just need to convince the devs that is great for the game

[Trakais]

Trying to solo Layeli Grow Easy for last 2 David's pages in Trainyard and Haavk WSR just to get wiped not far from extraction by freakin God of War title Subrosa player (dude, wth are you doing in Easy mode anyway? You already got your rank so GTFO.) is not fun experience and I onlt have so few gear tickets left. I encounter some solo players as well. Some I kill, some I let go, but overall it's frustrating when my progress gets reset over and over again by some overpowered players.

edit: BTW Operation Serpentine, if you can believe the description, is fully PvE mode coming on Jan 1, 2025, but it worries me it will be pay-to-enter cash grab for raid vouchers.

[Korva]

Originalmente postado por Sina:

Originalmente postado por Heigar Helfist:

I think (key work think, this is just based on what I've heard and nothing official) but I think the Raid you open at Operations lvl 9 is a PvE mode.

Can anyone confirm this?

There is no PvE Operations content. It is all PvPvE.
PvE solo/coop mode should be a thing. This game screams for it, so does the players.

We are getting one raid (Operation Serpent) 1st of January that is PvE but it is only for a weapon skin and doenst yield loot (most likely)

[Leziropav]

+1