The "Cheating" Problem.

[Pangloss]

I want to make it clear that I'm aware there are cheaters in Delta Force, but give me one game that doesn't struggle with that problem? You might argue that the problem is more frequent in Delta Force than in other games, but I really don't see it. I have encountered barely any myself in 200 hours playtime. I'm no advocate for cheaters neither, I just personally think the problem at hand isn't as severe as everyone makes it seem.

Analysis

I'm aware that I'm unable to post photographic evidence and as such these values are probably pretty untrustworthy in your perspective. So trust me or not, I don't really care.

Out of 30 games of Warfare, I encountered 2 Suspicious players. Both were low leveled, were putting out insane scores and had an insane aim, I wasn't the only one suspicious of these 2, but the ingame chat was livid as well.

The extraction mode (Operations) is not made for me and I don't really care enough to conduct a proper analysis. I'm level 33 on Operations and I have seen only one cheater, whom got banned 10 minutes after reporting him.

So based on these values (Which obviously are variable) you'll meet a cheater in every 15 games of Operation. Which might seem like a bad thing, but trust me, I've seen much worse.

So the real question is: is it a skill issue?

I have seen clips and whatnot from people who quite literally just post themselves being utter garbage at the game. So to the people who keep prosecuting every single player they die to as a cheater, how about you put the blame on your lack of competence.

Delta Forces' Warfare mode is quite literally what Battlefield games have been for tens of years. It's not a new game format, people are familiar with how things are played. So it's not a surprise you'll meet people who are good at it.

It's okay to be worse at things than another person, you should learn to live with that. Some people have more time and motivation to put into hobbies such as gaming and for that they are USUALLY better at it. It's like getting angry at a professional Baseball player for being better at baseball.


It's okay to be dumb, but stop spouting your delusions which are caused by your lack of competence!

[☥ 𝔄𝔫𝔡𝔯𝔢𝔦 ☥]

You summ up all the threads in one.....

It's skill issue on there part but are afraid to admit it.

[g4m3b0y]

Originally posted by ꑭ𝔄𝔫𝔡𝔯𝔢𝔦ꑭ:

You summ up all the threads in one.....

It's skill issue on there part but are afraid to admit it.

Wow, a tought guy !
There is really good players, there is really bad players, and there is cheaters.
Im happy if you're a good player and doing fine your progress, but dont be blind pls...
Game is a trash !
I have a fine PC but the game still lagg, fps drop, bad compatibility or anything else.
Who say there is no hackers on Delta force he have some mental issue on the head...
Dont know how many time kill cam show me i was killed from map other side trought multiple object.
I've died many times because the enemy aimed and fired in less than a second.
There were many cases when the opponent was waiting as if she knew I was coming and knew exactly where to shoot.
I know that there are many exceptionally extreme players in FPS games, but let's not cover everything with just this.

[Pangloss]

Originally posted by g4m3b0y:

Originally posted by ꑭ𝔄𝔫𝔡𝔯𝔢𝔦ꑭ:

You summ up all the threads in one.....

It's skill issue on there part but are afraid to admit it.

Wow, a tought guy !
There is really good players, there is really bad players, and there is cheaters.
Im happy if you're a good player and doing fine your progress, but dont be blind pls...
Game is a trash !
I have a fine PC but the game still lagg, fps drop, bad compatibility or anything else.
Who say there is no hackers on Delta force he have some mental issue on the head...
Dont know how many time kill cam show me i was killed from map other side trought multiple object.
I've died many times because the enemy aimed and fired in less than a second.
There were many cases when the opponent was waiting as if she knew I was coming and knew exactly where to shoot.
I know that there are many exceptionally extreme players in FPS games, but let's not cover everything with just this.

I'm not here to talk about performance issues, although those are usually correlated with bad players. So take it as such; If your computer sucks and the game runs poorly, you're at a huge disadvantage to a player with a good computer. Still not cheating, just more wealth, sorry.

I'm not making the argument that there are NO CHEATERS in Delta force, I'm saying there are cheaters but definitely not as many as people claim there are.

[g4m3b0y]

Originally posted by Pangloss:

Originally posted by g4m3b0y:

Wow, a tought guy !
There is really good players, there is really bad players, and there is cheaters.
Im happy if you're a good player and doing fine your progress, but dont be blind pls...
Game is a trash !
I have a fine PC but the game still lagg, fps drop, bad compatibility or anything else.
Who say there is no hackers on Delta force he have some mental issue on the head...
Dont know how many time kill cam show me i was killed from map other side trought multiple object.
I've died many times because the enemy aimed and fired in less than a second.
There were many cases when the opponent was waiting as if she knew I was coming and knew exactly where to shoot.
I know that there are many exceptionally extreme players in FPS games, but let's not cover everything with just this.

I'm not here to talk about performance issues, although those are usually correlated with bad players. So take it as such; If your computer sucks and the game runs poorly, you're at a huge disadvantage to a player with a good computer. Still not cheating, just more wealth, sorry.

I'm not making the argument that there are NO CHEATERS in Delta force, I'm saying there are cheaters but definitely not as many as people claim there are.

I understood what was being said and I just added it.
As I wrote, I don't have a top-of-the-line PC, but the game is quite tolerable and runs nicely, at least the warfare part.
What I described is not necessarily caused by a lack of performance.
I don't know if there are so many cheaters or if there are other things in the background, but I encounter the problems described quite often.
My FPS is at the right level, the game runs nicely, my internet connection and speed are tolerable, and I still encounter the described problems quite often.

Sorry for broken English...

[☥ 𝔄𝔫𝔡𝔯𝔢𝔦 ☥]

Originally posted by g4m3b0y:

Originally posted by ꑭ𝔄𝔫𝔡𝔯𝔢𝔦ꑭ:

You summ up all the threads in one.....

It's skill issue on there part but are afraid to admit it.

Wow, a tought guy !
There is really good players, there is really bad players, and there is cheaters.
Im happy if you're a good player and doing fine your progress, but dont be blind pls...
Game is a trash !
I have a fine PC but the game still lagg, fps drop, bad compatibility or anything else.
Who say there is no hackers on Delta force he have some mental issue on the head...
Dont know how many time kill cam show me i was killed from map other side trought multiple object.
I've died many times because the enemy aimed and fired in less than a second.
There were many cases when the opponent was waiting as if she knew I was coming and knew exactly where to shoot.
I know that there are many exceptionally extreme players in FPS games, but let's not cover everything with just this.

I play fps games since before u where born ........

With mp5 blue ammo i downed 2 teams with purple gear , using M249 :))).

Now leave me be, and yes i am tough , got issues ???

[Pangloss]

Originally posted by g4m3b0y:

Originally posted by Pangloss:

I'm not here to talk about performance issues, although those are usually correlated with bad players. So take it as such; If your computer sucks and the game runs poorly, you're at a huge disadvantage to a player with a good computer. Still not cheating, just more wealth, sorry.

I'm not making the argument that there are NO CHEATERS in Delta force, I'm saying there are cheaters but definitely not as many as people claim there are.

I understood what was being said and I just added it.
As I wrote, I don't have a top-of-the-line PC, but the game is quite tolerable and runs nicely, at least the warfare part.
What I described is not necessarily caused by a lack of performance.
I don't know if there are so many cheaters or if there are other things in the background, but I encounter the problems described quite often.
My FPS is at the right level, the game runs nicely, my internet connection and speed are tolerable, and I still encounter the described problems quite often.

Sorry for broken English...

Kill cams often have a tendency to make the death seem weird/suspicious, but in reality the kill cam is likely affected by latency of both players. Which can make it seem like they shot you, when you were behind a wall. This issue is pretty much impossible to overcome, realistically anyway.

I'm sorry to have offended you. I'm not blind to the fact that people are worse at videogames, I'm trying to get people to not be so hostile towards players who are simply just better at the game.

Falsely accusing people of being cheaters, exploiters etcetera only reinforces your own delusional mindset of "everyone who's better than me has to be doping"

[☥ 𝔄𝔫𝔡𝔯𝔢𝔦 ☥]

Yeah, and now they cry for the vrey thing they wanted to , gear cap....!

They cry cose probably it's hard for them to kill other players blue ammo vs purple armour, but it's quite EZ TO DO THAT :))

[✪ YIX]

Originally posted by ꑭ𝔄𝔫𝔡𝔯𝔢𝔦ꑭ:

You summ up all the threads in one.....

It's skill issue on there part but are afraid to admit it.

Evry time u say Skillissue... Maybe u are a cheater too :D

[g4m3b0y]

Originally posted by ꑭ𝔄𝔫𝔡𝔯𝔢𝔦ꑭ:

Originally posted by g4m3b0y:

Wow, a tought guy !
There is really good players, there is really bad players, and there is cheaters.
Im happy if you're a good player and doing fine your progress, but dont be blind pls...
Game is a trash !
I have a fine PC but the game still lagg, fps drop, bad compatibility or anything else.
Who say there is no hackers on Delta force he have some mental issue on the head...
Dont know how many time kill cam show me i was killed from map other side trought multiple object.
I've died many times because the enemy aimed and fired in less than a second.
There were many cases when the opponent was waiting as if she knew I was coming and knew exactly where to shoot.
I know that there are many exceptionally extreme players in FPS games, but let's not cover everything with just this.

I play fps games since before u where born ........

With mp5 blue ammo i downed 2 teams with purple gear , using M249 :))).

Now leave me be, and yes i am tough , got issues ???

Even if you are a professional player, you have no right to look down on others and humiliate them!
One of the users was right in another conversation.
You either have problems, or you are just a cheater who has not failed yet.
I wouldn't be surprised by your jerk-off style...

[g4m3b0y]

Originally posted by Pangloss:

Originally posted by g4m3b0y:

I understood what was being said and I just added it.
As I wrote, I don't have a top-of-the-line PC, but the game is quite tolerable and runs nicely, at least the warfare part.
What I described is not necessarily caused by a lack of performance.
I don't know if there are so many cheaters or if there are other things in the background, but I encounter the problems described quite often.
My FPS is at the right level, the game runs nicely, my internet connection and speed are tolerable, and I still encounter the described problems quite often.

Sorry for broken English...

Kill cams often have a tendency to make the death seem weird/suspicious, but in reality the kill cam is likely affected by latency of both players. Which can make it seem like they shot you, when you were behind a wall. This issue is pretty much impossible to overcome, realistically anyway.

I'm sorry to have offended you. I'm not blind to the fact that people are worse at videogames, I'm trying to get people to not be so hostile towards players who are simply just better at the game.

Falsely accusing people of being cheaters, exploiters etcetera only reinforces your own delusional mindset of "everyone who's better than me has to be doping"

You didn't hurt me, I just expressed my opinion.
If you're right, there are still quite a few other cases that are quite interesting.
I'm not trying to convince you or to call anyone a fraud, I'm just experiencing what I've experienced.
I'm not going to write that I'm happy in every case, but if someone fairly overcomes me, I won't accuse them.

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Another gaslighting thread from devs or paid actor.
Level 116 and yet game statistics for DF are hidden, so we can't say if he is actually playing the game on this account or alternative one.
We just see that he added the game to his profile, but no hours spent on it.

[v^v^v^v^√\/]

Originally posted by ꑭ𝔄𝔫𝔡𝔯𝔢𝔦ꑭ:

Yeah, and now they cry for the vrey thing they wanted to , gear cap....!

They cry cose probably it's hard for them to kill other players blue ammo vs purple armour, but it's quite EZ TO DO THAT :))

Then why are you playing on Zero Dam easy mode vs noobs?
Play on normal and on harder maps.
I mean, if it's SO "easy to do that".

[v^v^v^v^√\/]

Originally posted by g4m3b0y:

Originally posted by ꑭ𝔄𝔫𝔡𝔯𝔢𝔦ꑭ:

You summ up all the threads in one.....

It's skill issue on there part but are afraid to admit it.

Wow, a tought guy !
There is really good players, there is really bad players, and there is cheaters.
Im happy if you're a good player and doing fine your progress, but dont be blind pls...

Don't jump to conclusions too quickly.
He might as well be a cheater playing on alt account and using main account to brag about his "accomplishments", or he could be a friend of devs trying to gaslight people.
Considering his insults of people who see cheaters being "dumb", "delusional" and "incompetent" he can also be an ordinary forum troll.
Cheaters problem is obvious to anyone playing this game.
Just switch to BF2042 and you will see a significant difference.
Also, I reported a cheater in BF2042 and devs took an action in less than a week. In this game? They almost never do anything. Their weekly "reports" on cheaters looks like gaslighting too.
P.S. I was speaking about OP mostly.
This "Andrei" guy is just b..lshitter.
He already created a thread where he bragged how "EZ" game is, while posting screenshots from him playing Zero Damn on _easy_ mode vs noobs.

[panzerkat]

Originally posted by v^v^v^v^√\/:

Originally posted by g4m3b0y:

Also, I reported a cheater in BF2042 and devs took an action in less than a week. In this game? They almost never do anything. Their weekly "reports" on cheaters looks like gaslighting too.
.

Can confirm the lists are complete BS and just for gaslighting. I've gotten the same cheater banned twice using the same account/name. Once a couple months ago, and again a couple weeks ago. Their anti-cheat, dev team and "game" are a joke. Anyone saying theres no cheating or "hardly see" cheaters are just gaslighting and cheating themselves or so ignorant that they have zero clue what to look for or even know they were killed by a cheater.

Either way, cheaters have infested and taken over both Ops and Warfare and driven away a lot of the casuals. My most recent squad all uninstalled due to the cheating and the horrendous lag introduced in this current season.

[v^v^v^v^√\/]

Originally posted by panzerkat:

Can confirm the lists are complete BS and just for gaslighting. I've gotten the same cheater banned twice using the same account/name. Once a couple months ago, and again a couple weeks ago. Their anti-cheat, dev team and "game" are a joke. Anyone saying theres no cheating or "hardly see" cheaters are just gaslighting and cheating themselves or so ignorant that they have zero clue what to look for or even know they were killed by a cheater.

Either way, cheaters have infested and taken over both Ops and Warfare and driven away a lot of the casuals. My most recent squad all uninstalled due to the cheating and the horrendous lag introduced in this current season.

I stopped playing completely, not uninstalled yet.
Lost any hope in this game. I have around 140 hours in steam and, I guess, around 100 hours in Epic Store. But enough is enough.
At the end, BF2042 has significantly fewer cheaters, better netcode, and a new battlepass which I don't need to buy to use (because I've spent $5 on buying gold coins for battlepass 2 years ago).
Good attempt at BF rivalry from devs, but, unfortunately, they failed.