Nerf AA Gun

[vanster__]

♥♥♥♥♥ to OP wtf.

[PuppyGirl]

How so could you elaborate?

[DarK]

Yes the AA is extremely op. It can camp in base and shoot from one base to the other and beyond. Give it the same range as the helicopter so that it's a fair fight.

[PuppyGirl]

Originally posted by DarK:

Yes the AA is extremely op. It can camp in base and shoot from one base to the other and beyond. Give it the same range as the helicopter so that it's a fair fight.

Nah helicopters are pretty op

[DarK]

Originally posted by PuppyGirl:

Originally posted by DarK:

Yes the AA is extremely op. It can camp in base and shoot from one base to the other and beyond. Give it the same range as the helicopter so that it's a fair fight.

Nah helicopters are pretty op

How so? please elaborate?

[Jatimatic .50 BMG]

lmao they are a joke. Buff them if anything.

[PuppyGirl]

Originally posted by DarK:

Originally posted by PuppyGirl:

Nah helicopters are pretty op

How so? please elaborate?

The fact a decent pilot can dominate an entire game.

[Monk]

Yes, they are so OP with their limited arcs of fire, slow projectile speed, made out of tissue paper and your melon is an easy target for snipers.

They don't even do THAT much dmg IF they hit (a good pilot can pretty easily avoid or kill them), but, atleast they are a tiny bit better than stingers that take ages to lock, fly slowly, barely track and are broken by a very short cooldown on glares and the dumbest addition to any game a vehicle repair skill so they never really even need to fall back to base, plus regenerating ammo!

I miss the old says, where air craft could dominate in games, but had the limitation of NEEDING to land to repair or re-arm so they were not omnipresent killing machines ruining the fame for everyone else with no real counter.

Buff AA, nerf aircraft.

[bebek goreng slamet]

Originally posted by PuppyGirl:

Originally posted by DarK:

How so? please elaborate?

The fact a decent pilot can dominate an entire game.

Just spam the AA and use LAV-AA or Stinger. It's literally OP since Apache and Little Bird only had 1 flares and the flare reload is really slow.

[DarK]

Originally posted by PuppyGirl:

Originally posted by DarK:

How so? please elaborate?

The fact a decent pilot can dominate an entire game.

The fact is that a good AA driver, or 2 good infantry players or any good infantry or vehicle equipped with AA can down a chopper in seconds no matter how good the pilot is. Can't say the same about the AA. When it camps in base is unkillable. The only possible counter to a base camping AA would be a chopper but it can't even get close to it due to the insane range that the AA has.

[PuppyGirl]

Originally posted by pian:

Originally posted by PuppyGirl:

The fact a decent pilot can dominate an entire game.

Just spam the AA and use LAV-AA or Stinger. It's literally OP since Apache and Little Bird only had 1 flares and the flare reload is really slow.

They just keep their distance until flare is ready

[Monk]

Originally posted by pian:

Originally posted by PuppyGirl:

The fact a decent pilot can dominate an entire game.

Just spam the AA and use LAV-AA or Stinger. It's literally OP since Apache and Little Bird only had 1 flares and the flare reload is really slow.

Flares recharge really fast and missiles are easy to dodge.

The only real risk to aircraft is the LAV-AA gun, but that, like the stationary AA guns is easily countered by armour, or infantry, meanwhile the chopper can just fly up out of range of any of those counters.

Aircraft are over powered, hopefully ulurus launcher can bring them down in 1 shot without giving them 20 seconds of warning.

If you don't have a full squad trying to take down 1 chopper nearly non stop the chopper has free reign, it should not require a big dedicated group to counter 1 player, when that 1 player still has a good chance to escape!

[DarK]

Originally posted by Monk:

Originally posted by pian:

Just spam the AA and use LAV-AA or Stinger. It's literally OP since Apache and Little Bird only had 1 flares and the flare reload is really slow.

Flares recharge really fast and missiles are easy to dodge.

The only real risk to aircraft is the LAV-AA gun, but that, like the stationary AA guns is easily countered by armour, or infantry, meanwhile the chopper can just fly up out of range of any of those counters.

Aircraft are over powered, hopefully ulurus launcher can bring them down in 1 shot without giving them 20 seconds of warning.

If you don't have a full squad trying to take down 1 chopper nearly non stop the chopper has free reign, it should not require a big dedicated group to counter 1 player, when that 1 player still has a good chance to escape!

You don't need a squad, just 2 people. One laser designates it, the other takes it out. Also there's AA and a ton of stationary AA on the map. And almost every vehicle has a form of AA to counter choppers. Also choppers have very limited range.

[Soren]

Originally posted by Monk:

Yes, they are so OP with their limited arcs of fire, slow projectile speed, made out of tissue paper and your melon is an easy target for snipers.

They don't even do THAT much dmg IF they hit (a good pilot can pretty easily avoid or kill them), but, atleast they are a tiny bit better than stingers that take ages to lock, fly slowly, barely track and are broken by a very short cooldown on glares and the dumbest addition to any game a vehicle repair skill so they never really even need to fall back to base, plus regenerating ammo!

I miss the old says, where air craft could dominate in games, but had the limitation of NEEDING to land to repair or re-arm so they were not omnipresent killing machines ruining the fame for everyone else with no real counter.

Buff AA, nerf aircraft.

The problem isn't so much the unlimited ammo or the ability to self repair. As Battlefield games have these features. I'd say the issue is the self repair is a bit more spammable than battlefield (relative to vehicle HP and damage helis take). And the cooldown is probably too short for spamming the weapons.

The thing about the AA guns is they're largely useless on a map like Cracked. Doesn't matter if the range is infinite. The lead is insane, the damage is mid, the cooldown is too high to often kill before overheating, and the pilot can put buildings between you and them in that time. Waiting to regenerate vehicle health for as long as it takes. Only thing that can stop a good pilot is the LAAV's 20mm/30mm bullet shooter. Lock-on is useless against good pilots. You still have to lead your shots with the bullet hose, but the pilot simply can't play the game so long as you're harassing them well enough with it.

[Monk]

The far better, older BF's didn't have repair skills and regenerating ammo.

It made vehicles far more strategic and balanced, the way they are now, the games favour those who jump in a vehicles gun far higher than the rest of the team.

Heck, even being a gunner is pretty much worthless as you only get xp if you kill with your pea shooter.
I spent a whole map as a gunner on a tank, defending it and repairing, it was the lowest xp game I've had (like 4k xp lol), meanwhile the driver racked up over 20k xp because I kept stuff off of him and jumped out to repair.

Vehicles need tweaking as does the tools to kill them.

[Noodlesocks]

Originally posted by DarK:

Yes the AA is extremely op. It can camp in base and shoot from one base to the other and beyond. Give it the same range as the helicopter so that it's a fair fight.

Helicopters outrange AA guns.