SMGs and marksman rifles need a serious buff

[DarkWolf]

Both do way less damage and are just worse in every way to ARs.

[TheAndyboy888]

Are u kidding?
Some of the SMGs are way too good or even better than ARs. Marksman rifles are ok.
The SMGs should get a nerf like even more dmg drop at range because it is now ridiculous what happens. This type of guns should be for cqc fights not sniping at mid range

[Dwane Dibbley]

Many SMGs are ARs with godlike handling... Try moding SMG45 for control, its stupid AR with fast ADS time and ADS walk speed.

SMG-45 Submachine Gun-Warfare-6F6L1BC0305UVFTE1NO3J

[XXX_SniperSlayer42069_XXX]

Originalmente postado por DarkWolf:

Both do way less damage and are just worse in every way to ARs.

SMGs need a buff??? WHAT??

[Bomberman302]

I agree but only for the m249 last patch broke it.

[XXX_SniperSlayer42069_XXX]

Originalmente postado por Dwane Dibbley:

Many SMGs are ARs with godlike handling... Try moding SMG45 for control, its stupid AR with fast ADS time and ADS walk speed.

SMG-45 Submachine Gun-Warfare-6F6L1BC0305UVFTE1NO3J

That build sucks

This one is better
SMG-45 Submachine Gun-Warfare-6F6LDA40BD3GMG959GC77

Hold breath and it's a zero recoil laser

[CatTank]

smgs do have a buff when you rank them up, 45 or 60 round clips, with 600 or 800 or 1000 rpm the smgs might actually need a nerf!

[Furryslayer, The]

Have you seen the damage smgs do? Most of the time it's more than rifles. This game does a terrible job representing the benefits and drawbacks of the various types of weapons. SMGs use larger diameter bullets which do more damage to flesh but rifle cartridges have more powder which lets them penetrate armor better. And yet, somehow, there's 9mm AP ammo, which is not a real thing.

[ProtecTron]

Here I am laughing with my fully automatic M14 "battle rifle" lazor like with submachine handling lol.

Don't expect much realism in a game like this. I do want to see a better Revolver, damage should be 75 or 90.

[Dwane Dibbley]

Originalmente postado por XXX_SniperSlayer42069_XXX:

Originalmente postado por Dwane Dibbley:

Many SMGs are ARs with godlike handling... Try moding SMG45 for control, its stupid AR with fast ADS time and ADS walk speed.

SMG-45 Submachine Gun-Warfare-6F6L1BC0305UVFTE1NO3J

That build sucks

This one is better
SMG-45 Submachine Gun-Warfare-6F6LDA40BD3GMG959GC77

Hold breath and it's a zero recoil laser

Yeh, hold breath with SMG... Talk about sucking.

Dont be angry that someone came up with it before you. Its rather pathetic.

[Edge_Master]

no they don't/

[TheBlueFox]

I main the VSS Only for style... It has a low rate of fire for an SMG, but a high rate of fire for an MR. I have a 3x scope and a offset Red dot, I can use it at both ranges real well. Packs a punch, stupidly controllable.

It's certainly not the best, but damn does it feel good in my hands

[XXX_SniperSlayer42069_XXX]

Originalmente postado por Dwane Dibbley:

Originalmente postado por XXX_SniperSlayer42069_XXX:

That build sucks

This one is better
SMG-45 Submachine Gun-Warfare-6F6LDA40BD3GMG959GC77

Hold breath and it's a zero recoil laser

Yeh, hold breath with SMG... Talk about sucking.

Dont be angry that someone came up with it before you. Its rather pathetic.

That's the strangest cope I've ever seen for your build getting mogged, even without holding breath mine is better.

My build is objectively better, deal with it like a man.

I have spent collectively over 50 hours testing gun builds and then doing live tests in matches. I will not exaggerate when I say I have at least the top 3% builds in terms of quality.

[Dwane Dibbley]

Originalmente postado por XXX_SniperSlayer42069_XXX:

Originalmente postado por Dwane Dibbley:

Yeh, hold breath with SMG... Talk about sucking.

Dont be angry that someone came up with it before you. Its rather pathetic.

That's the strangest cope I've ever seen for your build getting mogged, even without holding breath mine is better.

My build is objectively better, deal with it like a man.

I have spent collectively over 50 hours testing gun builds and then doing live tests in matches. I will not exaggerate when I say I have at least the top 3% builds in terms of quality.

Elon, is that you? Someone would think you had enough... Atleast google meaning of word "objectively".

[XXX_SniperSlayer42069_XXX]

Originalmente postado por Dwane Dibbley:

Originalmente postado por XXX_SniperSlayer42069_XXX:

That's the strangest cope I've ever seen for your build getting mogged, even without holding breath mine is better.

My build is objectively better, deal with it like a man.

I have spent collectively over 50 hours testing gun builds and then doing live tests in matches. I will not exaggerate when I say I have at least the top 3% builds in terms of quality.

Elon, is that you? Someone would think you had enough...

Who is this Elon? Is he in the Delta forum somewhere? I didn't see him get mentioned before so I'm wondering why you're bringing this guy up.

[MƏĐJƏĐ]

Originalmente postado por Dwane Dibbley:

Originalmente postado por XXX_SniperSlayer42069_XXX:

That's the strangest cope I've ever seen for your build getting mogged, even without holding breath mine is better.

My build is objectively better, deal with it like a man.

I have spent collectively over 50 hours testing gun builds and then doing live tests in matches. I will not exaggerate when I say I have at least the top 3% builds in terms of quality.

Elon, is that you? Someone would think you had enough... Atleast google meaning of word "objectively".

No mention of him, yet you bring him up, rent free in your head. Holding breath is an extremely abusable mechanic in this game. You're build just sucks, not building for holding breath means missing out on major improvements to a guns capability past ~50+ meters.