Developers - This game is not fun for casual gamers!

[MiniNinja]

Re: The Extraction mode - The TTK is insanely fast, the spawn locations so close to each other it makes immediate gun fights almost mandatory, the cheaters (of course), the damage model is terrible (leg / arm meta), why would any casual players (people with lives, not streamers/pro players) spend money on this game? Address all of the above and you might have a game a year from know, otherwise, the streamers will move on to a new game, and with it your player base. Example - DMZ a dead development game, still draws a solid player base, why? because it has something for everyone, and it's actually enjoyable to play.

[DarK]

The ttk is fine. The problem is the spawns are too close together, cheaters and that the difference between low end gear and high end gear is too big. They should reduce it by 25%

[DeanW]

Originally posted by DarK:

Re: The Extraction mode - The TTK is insanely fast, the spawn locations so close to each other it makes immediate gun fights almost mandatory, the cheaters (of course), the damage model is terrible (leg / arm meta), why would any casual players (people with lives, not streamers/pro players) spend money on this game? Address all of the above and you might have a game a year from know, otherwise, the streamers will move on to a new game, and with it your player base. Example - DMZ a dead development game, still draws a solid player base, why? because it has something for everyone, and it's actually enjoyable to play.

They need to made at least one of two things (if not both), solo queue for those who don't want to play with randoms or been 1vs3 and die or PVE mode for more casual players maintaning the PVPVE of course.

On the other hand, at least Zero Damn, maps are very small and always lead to PVP, even if you tried to avoid it.

Originally posted by DarK:

The ttk is fine. The problem is the spawns are too close together, cheaters and that the difference between low end gear and high end gear is too big. They should reduce it by 25%

No, he has a point, two bullets and you're down with no time to respond.

[Patient#8326]

Originally posted by DeanW:

Originally posted by DarK:

No, he has a point, two bullets and you're down with no time to respond.

I got the drop with my CAR on someone. They took 5-7 rounds to the face, then fired at me. I died almost instantly. They were rocking purple level gear. I had wet toilet paper as my chest rig and a plastic grocery bag for a helmet lol.

One day someone will release a game that will appeal to PvPers, PvEers, PvPvErs and use the data it creates to handle the cheaters. Hopefully BHD doesn't suck when they drop it next month.

[DarK]

Originally posted by DeanW:

Originally posted by DarK:

Re: The Extraction mode - The TTK is insanely fast, the spawn locations so close to each other it makes immediate gun fights almost mandatory, the cheaters (of course), the damage model is terrible (leg / arm meta), why would any casual players (people with lives, not streamers/pro players) spend money on this game? Address all of the above and you might have a game a year from know, otherwise, the streamers will move on to a new game, and with it your player base. Example - DMZ a dead development game, still draws a solid player base, why? because it has something for everyone, and it's actually enjoyable to play.

They need to made at least one of two things (if not both), solo queue for those who don't want to play with randoms or been 1vs3 and die or PVE mode for more casual players maintaning the PVPVE of course.

On the other hand, at least Zero Damn, maps are very small and always lead to PVP, even if you tried to avoid it.

Originally posted by DarK:

The ttk is fine. The problem is the spawns are too close together, cheaters and that the difference between low end gear and high end gear is too big. They should reduce it by 25%

No, he has a point, two bullets and you're down with no time to respond.

Not with good gear. It takes more than 2 bullets.

[WishFish]

It's not two bullets. Listen and spot your environment, don't get surprized.

[Kekkonen]

TTK is SLOW. Wtf are these kids thinking.

[SkullCollector]

IMHO the Matchmaking is not the greatest thing that they made.
Joining a game and Pros on the whole map. You can't make one footstep without getting a bullet in the head.

I was looking forward to this game, but the arsenal of weapons is too complicated and far too time consuming.
I want to choose a weapon and then have the right ammunition. Without having to search through 100 types of ammunition.
You can get used to modding the weapons. But everything else is far too complicated to achieve.
Choose a weapon with ammunition, choose the game type and off you go.
Before you start a game, you spend 10-15 minutes setting everything up, like ammo and so on. It's really annoying.

[Kekkonen]

Casual gamers should go into AD drill to learn. This game is not rocket science, shoot the enemy and thats that.

[barps]

+1 for Coop PvE

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https://steamcommunity.com/app/2507950/discussions/0/537714352002716178/

Not sure what to do about the cheaters but the disparity within gearsets could be solved easily, also moving spawns and not making all exfil locations on same end of the map an having a kill funnel would be a great idea.

[MatG]

The cheaters are my main issue, its great just loosing gear to someone blatantly cheat every game