What's the point in the thermals?

[Juna-Tah]

Neither of the thermal optics can see through smoke which is the only reason i'd see the thermals being useful and we can't use them for that, the scope thermal obscures too much of the view to be usable too.

[Juna-Tah]

Publicado originalmente por crusher:

Actually sadly the thermals CAN look through some smoke, I was pretty shocked to find that out yesterday. It is the dark greyish smoke, you can look through it with thermals (at least the purple one Ive tried on my rifle)

I hope this is an oversight because they wanted to make thermals first see through all smoke but then they changed it because of backlash. Maybe they forgot to change this back ? I hope.

I also agree that its very easy to spot people, I saw yesterday an enemy about 200-300m or something away hiding in a dark tunnel, thats stupid.

We need less ESP/WH and the like and not more, at least thats what I would like.

We need the head firing BS fixed, that is at least to me what breaks the game, it so annoying.

EDIT: And about night maps, well then give people a button to activate nightvision on night maps only.

i've tested all 3 smokes (unless im missing more) and i couldn't see through a single one of them.

[crusher]

You cant look through smoke, no matter which thermal.

Yes you can loook through the smoke of the medic class, using the purple thermal on the rifles (dont know about others). Try it for yourself, pick the medic class, throw a smoke nade and see through it.

Ive just went again into a game and tried it, it works, I can see through.

[crusher]

Here you go, sorry for the delay in the beginning and at the end but I was trying to figure out the xbox gamebar to record the video and I didnt want to edit the video, its just ~30 seconds anyways.

This game was vs. bots but it works the same way against normal players.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liF83y8hAVE

[Fall Damage]

Thermals were most certainly needed in this game since they(Team Jade) thought it was such a great idea to have named specialists in this game(let alone so few to begin with) that the amount of Smoke Nade/Screen spam more often than not gets so bad that it makes engaging in firefights near impossible w/o spraying like an idiot.

I really wished they didn't put in named specialsts(heroes) in this game, that's just one of the things that made BF2042 such a garbage entry(among a multitude of other things).....

[Juna-Tah]

Publicado originalmente por crusher:

Here you go, sorry for the delay in the beginning and at the end but I was trying to figure out the xbox gamebar to record the video and I didnt want to edit the video, its just ~30 seconds anyways.

This game was vs. bots but it works the same way against normal players.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liF83y8hAVE

purple thermals? what do you mean purple thermals?

[Juna-Tah]

Publicado originalmente por Fall Damage:

Thermals were most certainly needed in this game since they(Team Jade) thought it was such a great idea to have named specialists in this game(let alone so few to begin with) that the amount of Smoke Nade/Screen spam more often than not gets so bad that it makes engaging in firefights near impossible w/o spraying like an idiot.

I really wished they didn't put in named specialsts(heroes) in this game, that's just one of the things that made BF2042 such a garbage entry(among a multitude of other things).....

think this game does it well tbh, at least they are constantly adding more and more operators to make the matches at least a lil more different.

[Juna-Tah]

Publicado originalmente por crusher:

Here you go, sorry for the delay in the beginning and at the end but I was trying to figure out the xbox gamebar to record the video and I didnt want to edit the video, its just ~30 seconds anyways.

This game was vs. bots but it works the same way against normal players.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liF83y8hAVE

think your game is bugged, i used the same grenade with the same thermal optics and you can't see through the smoke unless there's a secret mode.

[Fall Damage]

Publicado originalmente por Juna-Tah:

Publicado originalmente por Fall Damage:

Thermals were most certainly needed in this game since they(Team Jade) thought it was such a great idea to have named specialists in this game(let alone so few to begin with) that the amount of Smoke Nade/Screen spam more often than not gets so bad that it makes engaging in firefights near impossible w/o spraying like an idiot.

I really wished they didn't put in named specialsts(heroes) in this game, that's just one of the things that made BF2042 such a garbage entry(among a multitude of other things).....

think this game does it well tbh, at least they are constantly adding more and more operators to make the matches at least a lil more different.

Nah, named operators/heroes belong in Hero Shooters, not FPS's like this.

[Michael]

Publicado originalmente por Bomberman302:

Publicado originalmente por Juna-Tah:

any form of clear player visibility is negated by the lack of view.

Well I will admit that there is a lack of view I use a 110 fov and there's only 2 bad zones one on either side of the scope but I find it ok and tolerable. I have scope mag adapts auto ON in the settings and the scope calibrations set to where the main view don't zoom just the scope only zooms.

Your a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ g for this, i didnt know thats what the setting did.... you just fixed the nausea inducing screen zoom thank you

[Juna-Tah]

Still dont know what settings are needed or how to change mode on the thermals so that they work through smoke.

[WishFish]

Publicado originalmente por Bomberman302:

Publicado originalmente por Loco:

Possibly the higher contrast between targets and background? Like putting a spotlight on the 2 pixels sticking up over a barrier?

Its a secret

Does it have anything to do with seeing through clothes?

[Praesi]

Publicado originalmente por crusher:

Here you go, sorry for the delay in the beginning and at the end but I was trying to figure out the xbox gamebar to record the video and I didnt want to edit the video, its just ~30 seconds anyways.

This game was vs. bots but it works the same way against normal players.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liF83y8hAVE

Dont know what this in the Video is, but i can not look through any smoke with any scope.

[Juna-Tah]

Publicado originalmente por Praesi:

Publicado originalmente por crusher:

Here you go, sorry for the delay in the beginning and at the end but I was trying to figure out the xbox gamebar to record the video and I didnt want to edit the video, its just ~30 seconds anyways.

This game was vs. bots but it works the same way against normal players.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liF83y8hAVE

Dont know what this in the Video is, but i can not look through any smoke with any scope.

i'm thinking it's a graphic setting but no one is saying anything, even the devs so.

[Evil Carpenter]

I think the scopes are for some upcoming night system in current maps i guess it would be broken as hell if you can see through a smoke tbh not to mention operations are run by hackers there..

[Juna-Tah]

Publicado originalmente por Evil Carpenter:

I think the scopes are for some upcoming night system in current maps i guess it would be broken as hell if you can see through a smoke tbh not to mention operations are run by hackers there..

true, the thermals are only really useful for a small period of time if can see through smokes, they are decent on stuff like sniper and marksman rifles but i ended up switching back to normal scopes.