Trojan Virus Detected, seriously?

[Fazben]

this game had so many issues from launch, none of them were performance on my end at least. But with all the semantics surrounding the anti-cheat and now this Trojan Virus Warning, I'm wiping all files of this game from my computer and never playing again.

[v^v^v^v^√\/]

Not a game problem, though.

[Adegan Gaul]

BitDefender just needs to update it's latest definitions. That's all. Pretty common.

[v^v^v^v^√\/]

Originally posted by -RB-swing:

Originally posted by v^v^v^v^√\/:

Not a game problem, though.

Yeah it pretty much is...... as my Antivirus caught it while Steam was downloading the resources after I launched the game.

It's not an isolated incident, it's all over the internet.

So why don't you contact your antivirus support?
Yeah, it's "all over the internet" because you are not alone using this useless software.
Why useless? Because antiviruses stopped catching real viruses many years ago. Now it's 99% false positives.
How do I know? It's enough to compress your .exe with UPX which is old as mammoth sh1t and voila! MS Defender will report the .exe as virus.
They can't even deal with this ancient compression.
Viruses? Lol, they wouldn't detect a real virus even if I point them at it.
They just detect signatures of compressors, obfuscators etc. and report them as viruses.
Any decent anticheat will use obfuscation to protect itself from hackers. Of course, it will be reported as a "virus" by brain-dead antiviruses.

[Maze]

Originally posted by PBIVRizzler:

BitDefender just needs to update it's latest definitions. That's all. Pretty common.

My AV updates every 2 hours and I just got that disinfection in progress started... No other game gets flagged with that, but this one do?

[Holy Athena]

Originally posted by v^v^v^v^√\/:

Originally posted by -RB-swing:

Yeah it pretty much is...... as my Antivirus caught it while Steam was downloading the resources after I launched the game.

It's not an isolated incident, it's all over the internet.

So why don't you contact your antivirus support?
Yeah, it's "all over the internet" because you are not alone using this useless software.
Why useless? Because antiviruses stopped catching real viruses many years ago. Now it's 99% false positives.
How do I know? It's enough to compress your .exe with UPX which is old as mammoth sh1t and voila! MS Defender will report the .exe as virus.
They can't even deal with this ancient compression.
Viruses? Lol, they wouldn't detect a real virus even if I point them at it.
They just detect signatures of compressors, obfuscators etc. and report them as viruses.
Any decent anticheat will use obfuscation to protect itself from hackers. Of course, it will be reported as a "virus" by brain-dead antiviruses.

Bruh.. you don't have to tell yourself out so hard for having no clue how anti virus works.

While everything you said is true, that's not the point.. The point is the anti virus teams get reports of actual viruses, and other real time reports both false positives, and real, to then update the users with. It's just a way to stay connected with the known viruses going around and protect yourself from them. Nothing more, nothing less.

Most people don't even need Anti Viruses anymore, unless you're going on super shady stuff, but they are still very helpful for other things, such as phishing sites for grandma who doesn't know any better.

[v^v^v^v^√\/]

Originally posted by Holy Athena:

Originally posted by v^v^v^v^√\/:

So why don't you contact your antivirus support?
Yeah, it's "all over the internet" because you are not alone using this useless software.
Why useless? Because antiviruses stopped catching real viruses many years ago. Now it's 99% false positives.
How do I know? It's enough to compress your .exe with UPX which is old as mammoth sh1t and voila! MS Defender will report the .exe as virus.
They can't even deal with this ancient compression.
Viruses? Lol, they wouldn't detect a real virus even if I point them at it.
They just detect signatures of compressors, obfuscators etc. and report them as viruses.
Any decent anticheat will use obfuscation to protect itself from hackers. Of course, it will be reported as a "virus" by brain-dead antiviruses.

Bruh.. you don't have to tell yourself out so hard for having no clue how anti virus works.

While everything you said is true, that's not the point.. The point is the anti virus teams get reports of actual viruses, and other real time reports both false positives, and real, to then update the users with. It's just a way to stay connected with the known viruses going around and protect yourself from them. Nothing more, nothing less.

Most people don't even need Anti Viruses anymore, unless you're going on super shady stuff, but they are still very helpful for other things, such as phishing sites for grandma who doesn't know any better.

Tells "you have no clue".
Then says something that doesn't add or contradicts to anything to what I said.
Cool story, bro.

[Holy Athena]

Originally posted by v^v^v^v^√\/:

Originally posted by Holy Athena:

Bruh.. you don't have to tell yourself out so hard for having no clue how anti virus works.

While everything you said is true, that's not the point.. The point is the anti virus teams get reports of actual viruses, and other real time reports both false positives, and real, to then update the users with. It's just a way to stay connected with the known viruses going around and protect yourself from them. Nothing more, nothing less.

Most people don't even need Anti Viruses anymore, unless you're going on super shady stuff, but they are still very helpful for other things, such as phishing sites for grandma who doesn't know any better.

Tells "you have no clue".
Then says something that doesn't add or contradicts to anything to what I said.
Cool story, bro.

If you fail reading comprehension perhaps. How would you know if it was a cool story when you failed to understand it?

[v^v^v^v^√\/]

Originally posted by Holy Athena:

Originally posted by v^v^v^v^√\/:

Tells "you have no clue".
Then says something that doesn't add or contradicts to anything to what I said.
Cool story, bro.

If you fail reading comprehension perhaps. How would you know if it was a cool story when you failed to understand it?

So your points:
1) "The point is the anti virus teams get reports of actual viruses" - does it disprove/contradicts to what I said? No.
2) "and other real time reports both false positives" - does it disprove/contradicts to what I said? No.
3) "and real, to then update the users with." - does it disprove/contradicts to what I said? No.
4) "It's just a way to stay connected with the known viruses going around and protect yourself from them. Nothing more, nothing less. " - it's not a technical description suitable for half of the processes in real life.

As I said: useless addition starting with "you have no clue".
From a self-declared "smart" person.

[Praesi]

Did you delete your FB Account and throw your IPhone away too? Ridiculous.

[NTU]

Originally posted by v^v^v^v^√\/:

Originally posted by -RB-swing:

Yeah it pretty much is...... as my Antivirus caught it while Steam was downloading the resources after I launched the game.

It's not an isolated incident, it's all over the internet.

So why don't you contact your antivirus support?
Yeah, it's "all over the internet" because you are not alone using this useless software.
Why useless? Because antiviruses stopped catching real viruses many years ago. Now it's 99% false positives.
How do I know? It's enough to compress your .exe with UPX which is old as mammoth sh1t and voila! MS Defender will report the .exe as virus.
They can't even deal with this ancient compression.
Viruses? Lol, they wouldn't detect a real virus even if I point them at it.
They just detect signatures of compressors, obfuscators etc. and report them as viruses.
Any decent anticheat will use obfuscation to protect itself from hackers. Of course, it will be reported as a "virus" by brain-dead antiviruses.

/thread

[RobotMonkey]

Tencent uses kernel level anticheat in their games as a way to collect information and spy for the Chinese military. You're a fool if you think otherwise.

[NTU]

Originally posted by RobotMonkey:

Tencent uses kernel level anticheat in their games as a way to collect information and spy for the Chinese military. You're a fool if you think otherwise.

And you're a fool for playing any game with kernel-level anti-cheat, you just only care when the Chinese does it.

[InsightKnight]

"Most people don't even need Anti Viruses anymore"

yeah definitely listen to this guy ... LMAO

[Kostolom]

People screaming about Trojans do not understand how AVs work at all. Words like signature/heuristic/behavioural are generally something outside the universe for them. The fact that this dll is marked as malicious means absolutely nothing since there are so many techniques that use substitution and exploitation of these dll's.
Which are never signed by anyone so this allows you to do whatever you want with them. And the anti-cheat itself is highly intrusive software, take the same Vanguard from Riot, which simply fits into the core of your system and does what it wants there.

And oh my god, it will use the same WinAPI calls that Trojans use! Because all software do same stuff.

It looks like some method responsible for reading memory/registry/files or something else was marked as malware or, as "v^v^v^v^√\/" said, part of the obfuscator signature was sent to the AV databases and the poor anti-cheat developer did not know that his self-written obfuscator was already written by a certain blackhat 5 years ago. Let's obfuscate this dll using other methods and... Malware is gone!

Until there is a threat hunting report confirming the collection of confidential information and the addresses where it goes, there is no point in shouting about malware.

[NTU]

Originally posted by InsightKnight:

"Most people don't even need Anti Viruses anymore"

yeah definitely listen to this guy ... LMAO

It's true, anti-virus are for people who download dumb things off the net.