Remove operators.

[ArmedGhost-]

Remove operators.

Give us generic soldiers with the freedom to customize them how we want from the ground up.

Take the BFV level of customization and apply it to Hawk Ops.
Seems like the devs here would've realized how hated the speacilist are in 2042 and is part of the reason that game flopped.

Doesn't make sense to drag the most hated element of 2042 and apply it to another game.

Hawk Ops has potential, graphics, sound and gameplay aren't bad are outperform 2042 IMO, but the operator b.s kills it for me 100% and I think I speak for others too when I say operators need to be scraped.

Give us generic solders we can fully customize, a class system and we have a pretty decent game that could make it's mark in the FPS space.

[ArmedGhost-]

Originally posted by Wybrem:

Originally posted by Elemeno.:

hate operators ... they are just over the top ... but what i really hate ... is wallhack arrows

ye i am burning out on the game because of it. it is so lame and kills immersion imo. but tbh all abilities are bad and lame. Just make normal soldiers, idk why everyone is still cloning Overwatch today.

yeah. I don't get it at all.

Hawk Ops actually looks good and has pretty good sound design. Game would be overwhelming better if they just had generic soldiers without these goofy ass abilities and operators. Let's us pick our weapon, have basic classes (medic, recon, assault, machine gunner) with basic class skills. Devs are trying to do too much when in reality with FPS games, less is more.

Every previous BF game didn't have all of this goofy ass abilities or hero shooter B.S and they always performed very well and retained players. BFV and BF1 still retains more daily players than 2042. BV5 had 38k players in the last 24 hours. That's the playerbase Hawk Ops needs to be appealing to. Those who just want a true BF experience again.

I think devs see that X games is doing this, but not realizing not every gamer likes or wants the hero shooter, goofy mechanics. There's very little options for gamers to play an FPS game with generic solders other than the older BF games. With 2042 sh!tting the bed, I really though Hawk Ops was going to have a generic class system with character customization instead of just straight up ripping off 2042. Doesn't make sense to rip off a game that failed.

Same thing happed with the game World War 3. Game had it's own ideas, then they ended up adding trendy mechancis and killed the game off. Devs need to realize that trendy mechanics doesn't apply or appeal to every game and there is a market for an FPS for those who don't want all of this goofy b.s

Give us a generic customizable solider, a weapon, a class and that would appeal to tens of thousands of players easy.

[ArmedGhost-]

Originally posted by gacob:

+1 to remove operators

But I don't think it'll happen. I very much doubt they will only sell skins, but also operators.

And before someone claims that they said the game won't have anything locked behind a paywall:

They can make an operator be very hard to get except you pay. It's not a paywall but a pay to fast, and they never said the game won't have pay to fast.

IDK. I am a full believer that allowing the freedom for players to customize their character how they want, allows for more opportunity to sell both complete outfits and individual pieces, like a rig, helmet or pants by themselves, where players can mix and match cosmetics without being forced to wear a complete outfit or "skin"

I'd happily spend $X of time between individual cosmetics over $20 dollar skins that we will just see other players having the same skin. In BFV, with the level of customization and cosmetics, it's very rare to find cloned solider other than the default starting uniforms and legendary uniforms. Other than that, solider appearance in BFV is very diverse.

I think BFV has some of the best customization and cosmetics for a PvP FPS game
and that's the model Hawk Ops should have.

[ElviraDemonQueen]

problem is i think ths opeartors are done for there EXTRACTION Shooter not for the battlefield mode i think they added battlefield Mode after they watched EA kill them self

[gacob]

Originally posted by ArmedGhost-:

Originally posted by gacob:

+1 to remove operators

But I don't think it'll happen. I very much doubt they will only sell skins, but also operators.

And before someone claims that they said the game won't have anything locked behind a paywall:

They can make an operator be very hard to get except you pay. It's not a paywall but a pay to fast, and they never said the game won't have pay to fast.

IDK. I am a full believer that allowing the freedom for players to customize their character how they want, allows for more opportunity to sell both complete outfits and individual pieces, like a rig, helmet or pants by themselves, where players can mix and match cosmetics without being forced to wear a complete outfit or "skin"

I'd happily spend $X of time between individual cosmetics over $20 dollar skins that we will just see other players having the same skin. In BFV, with the level of customization and cosmetics, it's very rare to find cloned solider other than the default starting uniforms and legendary uniforms. Other than that, solider appearance in BFV is very diverse.

I think BFV has some of the best customization and cosmetics for a PvP FPS game
and that's the model Hawk Ops should have.

Sure, but what if they sell skins AND a very strong operator?

[Superspion Tøffi Turbo]

+1 Remove operators!

[Wader]

+1

[PyroPanda]

They can have generic soldiers and still sell different skins for them. Kinda like hell let loose and others have done. I haven't got to play it yet because I refuse to watch a boring twice stream for hours. But if they add operators then at least make the enemy team look different lol. Hated how BF2042 made both sides look the same. Just fighting clones of yourself the whole Game. Kills the immersion

[ArmedGhost-]

Originally posted by PyroPanda:

They can have generic soldiers and still sell different skins for them. Kinda like hell let loose and others have done. I haven't got to play it yet because I refuse to watch a boring twice stream for hours. But if they add operators then at least make the enemy team look different lol. Hated how BF2042 made both sides look the same. Just fighting clones of yourself the whole Game. Kills the immersion

Agree 100%.

[Elemeno.]

they have already made 3 seasons of skins... they wont remove them now

[~ Requiem ~]

+1

[videXX]

Originally posted by ElviraDemonQueen:

problem is i think ths opeartors are done for there EXTRACTION Shooter not for the battlefield mode i think they added battlefield Mode after they watched EA kill them self

They're even worse in terms of balancing in that mode. I don't think you're onto anything with that.

[COMMISSAR VANE]

+1

[Vinter]

Yep, sick of the hero/operator trend in these games...absolute garbage.

[ArmedGhost-]

Originally posted by Elemeno.:

they have already made 3 seasons of skins... they wont remove them now

Game isn't even going to make through 3 seasons if they keep these garbage operators.

[Valloittaja]

Operator locked weapons should go away. Anyone know will there be infantry only game mode or HC mode?