How Does Any of This Work?

[Water Ｖａｐｏｒ Merchant]

I wishlisted this a while ago because I had a passing interest in Shovel Knight and thought this was just the deluxe edition or something. The Winter Sale rolled in and I thought I'd check it out and see if I might want to pick up while it's on sale (which it isn't, surprisingly). Then I started looking through discussions, and found out this is Shovel Knight with all the DLC. But all the DLC came free with the original game, which was renamed Shovel of Hope for some reason. And now everyone's calling the DLC individual games? And they're being packed together as Treasure Trove as if they were separate to begin with? What's going on?

[Baron von Dapper]

Originally there was one Shovel Knight and the devs promised that the buyers would get free DLCs. Around the time Specter of Torment came out they upgraded the original to Treasure Trove and started selling them individually because making DLCs big enough to be their own games for free isn't a great idea moneywise. They increased the price of Treasure Trove when the Specter and King games came out. Pre-Specter buyers didn't have to pay more for the DLCs.

[SonicBoomNFA]

^ Essentially, when you buy the game, any DLC that comes out afterwards is free for you. So anyone that bought the game before a large number of the DLCs came out got an incredible deal because any future DLCs were added for free (so if you bought Shovel Knight when it first came out, ALL of the DLCs that came out over the years were automatically added). Now that the game is totally complete, the entire thing with all of the DLCs was called Shovel Knight: Treasure Trove, but if you don't care for certain pieces of the game, you can buy the standalone versions of some campaigns because they all work as their own entire games. For example, the standalone Shovel Knight (now named Shovel Knight: Shovel of Hope) is just the original release of Shovel Knight with nothing else (even costs the same), and the standalone Specter Knight campaign (or Shovel Knight: Specter of Torment) is just the Specter Knight DLC with nothing else. If you missed the bus and are only just now buying Treasure Trove, it's pretty pricey since it's the combined price of each of the standalone parts, so I'm sorry about that.

[BlaZ]

Originally posted by SonicBoomNFA:

If you missed the bus and are only just now buying Treasure Trove, it's pretty pricey since it's the combined price of each of the standalone parts, so I'm sorry about that.

Tell me about it. I wishlisted this a while ago in hopes that it would go on sale for the Holiday sale, but instead it literally did the opposite. Got more expensive...

[LaChouette]

To be fair, even if you only play each campaign once and don't even touch Showdown, you've got 20 to 30 hours of gameplay. Going for new game +, going for showdown story mode and versus with friends, going for achievements, well, I have 150 hours on the game. Quite worth the current price.


It's also worth noting that if you buy one of the standalone versions to see if you'd like the game, the studio will send you a coupon (currently, they plan to do this in January) that will lower the price of Treasure Trove roughly by the price of the standalone version you picked.

[lillacSTEY]

kkp

[Oguzhan]

Originally posted by SonicBoomNFA:

^ Essentially, when you buy the game, any DLC that comes out afterwards is free for you. So anyone that bought the game before a large number of the DLCs came out got an incredible deal because any future DLCs were added for free (so if you bought Shovel Knight when it first came out, ALL of the DLCs that came out over the years were automatically added). Now that the game is totally complete, the entire thing with all of the DLCs was called Shovel Knight: Treasure Trove, but if you don't care for certain pieces of the game, you can buy the standalone versions of some campaigns because they all work as their own entire games. For example, the standalone Shovel Knight (now named Shovel Knight: Shovel of Hope) is just the original release of Shovel Knight with nothing else (even costs the same), and the standalone Specter Knight campaign (or Shovel Knight: Specter of Torment) is just the Specter Knight DLC with nothing else. If you missed the bus and are only just now buying Treasure Trove, it's pretty pricey since it's the combined price of each of the standalone parts, so I'm sorry about that.

And I am one of those people. I bought Shovel Knight when it first came out at sale. I didn't really like the game so I was a bit bummed out but after that I kept getting free DLCs one after another and honestly at this point I can't really complain. Not gonna lie the only campaign I truly love is Specter of Torment. I like King of Cards for the most part and probably wont mind going back to it again in the future but that's about it. Shovel of Hope can suck something so hard, it's terrible. And Plague requires you to charge to have a good jump. I don't like charge shot in megaman who thought it was a good idea to make it a jump gimmick.

Anyway as I was saying, if you were one of those who bought the game initially, than you made one hell of a deal. ESPECIALLY if you happen to like all 4 of the campaigns. I don't but if you do then you are one lucky human being.

[SonicBoomNFA]

Originally posted by Oguzhan:

Originally posted by SonicBoomNFA:

^ Essentially, when you buy the game, any DLC that comes out afterwards is free for you. So anyone that bought the game before a large number of the DLCs came out got an incredible deal because any future DLCs were added for free (so if you bought Shovel Knight when it first came out, ALL of the DLCs that came out over the years were automatically added). Now that the game is totally complete, the entire thing with all of the DLCs was called Shovel Knight: Treasure Trove, but if you don't care for certain pieces of the game, you can buy the standalone versions of some campaigns because they all work as their own entire games. For example, the standalone Shovel Knight (now named Shovel Knight: Shovel of Hope) is just the original release of Shovel Knight with nothing else (even costs the same), and the standalone Specter Knight campaign (or Shovel Knight: Specter of Torment) is just the Specter Knight DLC with nothing else. If you missed the bus and are only just now buying Treasure Trove, it's pretty pricey since it's the combined price of each of the standalone parts, so I'm sorry about that.

Anyway as I was saying, if you were one of those who bought the game initially, than you made one hell of a deal. ESPECIALLY if you happen to like all 4 of the campaigns. I don't but if you do then you are one lucky human being.

Hell yeah

Also, I don't remember too much about my experiences with the past campaigns (except for the fact that I know I loved them all), but I remember being really satisfied with Plague Knight's base movements. I felt so damn smooth getting the Hurry Up achievement at the same time as the Naked achievement; for some reason, he just flies through stages when he has no powerups at all, so I think it was actually his upgrades and powerups that diminished his gameplay. Maybe that's just me though

[Oguzhan]

Originally posted by SonicBoomNFA:

Originally posted by Oguzhan:

Anyway as I was saying, if you were one of those who bought the game initially, than you made one hell of a deal. ESPECIALLY if you happen to like all 4 of the campaigns. I don't but if you do then you are one lucky human being.

Hell yeah

Also, I don't remember too much about my experiences with the past campaigns (except for the fact that I know I loved them all), but I remember being really satisfied with Plague Knight's base movements. I felt so damn smooth getting the Hurry Up achievement at the same time as the Naked achievement; for some reason, he just flies through stages when he has no powerups at all, so I think it was actually his upgrades and powerups that diminished his gameplay. Maybe that's just me though

Dude charging for a decent jump is bad. End of story. You like it? Sure, go ahead. But all it does is to give me hand cramps.

[SonicBoomNFA]

Originally posted by Oguzhan:

Originally posted by SonicBoomNFA:

Hell yeah

Also, I don't remember too much about my experiences with the past campaigns (except for the fact that I know I loved them all), but I remember being really satisfied with Plague Knight's base movements. I felt so damn smooth getting the Hurry Up achievement at the same time as the Naked achievement; for some reason, he just flies through stages when he has no powerups at all, so I think it was actually his upgrades and powerups that diminished his gameplay. Maybe that's just me though

Dude charging for a decent jump is bad. End of story. You like it? Sure, go ahead. But all it does is to give me hand cramps.

False. YOU think it's bad; it's certainly not objective. I still suggest that maybe not worrying about all the extra upgrades and stuff might solve some issues as it did for me, but if you don't want to try that, that's okay too.