Nexus mods wiped off the face of the earth?

[UnlivingEnd]

I remember Nexus having a lot more mods, including a save editor but there is no sign of them now. They have been replaced with a handful of small mods.

[myhv]

Dev specifically made the game a pita to mod.

[UnlivingEnd]

Originally posted by myhv:

Dev specifically made the game a pita to mod.

Why?

[Tamiore]

Originally posted by UnlivingEnd:

Originally posted by myhv:

Dev specifically made the game a pita to mod.

Why?

I don't think there's ever been an "official" answer.
Plausible answers include things like code obfuscation to prevent direct data-mining because you put some "secret stuff" into the game and want it to be discovered specifically via gameplay.

[Radiosity]

Even if he didn't intentionally obfuscate (not sure on that one), he still coded the game in .NET which compiles code on the fly (known as JIT, or just-in-time compilation), and that can lead to all sorts of weirdness that make it hard to mod (or to use things like Cheat Engine).

Possible, yes, but certainly not conducive.

[Mauman]

Originally posted by UnlivingEnd:

Originally posted by myhv:

Dev specifically made the game a pita to mod.

Why?

Based on his replies, Styg thinks that his code can't be improved. He's more or less stated that.

Styg's game is great and I respect his work. I also think he's a narcissistic jackass.

Oh well. Gotta deal with the bad while taking in the good I suppose.

[Radiosity]

Originally posted by Mauman:

Originally posted by UnlivingEnd:

Why?

Based on his replies, Styg thinks that his code can't be improved. He's more or less stated that.

Styg's game is great and I respect his work. I also think he's a narcissistic jackass.

Oh well. Gotta deal with the bad while taking in the good I suppose.

This is why I love seeing the CE community creating tables, as it proves that his work CAN in fact be messed with and improved (depending on your subjective value of improved, of course, talking stuff like making merchant refresh instant, which would otherwise have been a simple mod).

[Xhazahh]

I think he isn't being malicious about the code, maybe over protective. Maybe just doesn't want people messing with the code he wrote if that makes sense. I personally don't like supporting nexus anyway because they are a bunch of censorious loons so i wouldn't suggest them for mods.

[Valen]

At this point - I would not worry about the ability to mod in this game - I would be seeking to see if modding is going to be possible in the next game in the series - that the Dev is currently working on.

[Serendipitous]

Originally posted by Mauman:

Originally posted by UnlivingEnd:

Why?

Based on his replies, Styg thinks that his code can't be improved. He's more or less stated that.

Styg's game is great and I respect his work. I also think he's a narcissistic jackass.

Oh well. Gotta deal with the bad while taking in the good I suppose.

I don't think that's true. I remember asking him on discord about modding and he doesn't hate the idea of it, at least in terms of user created content, but the framework he used for Underrail makes it very difficult and time consuming creating anything like a mod toolkit. So i don't think we ever gonna see it for Underrail, maybe for Underrail 2.