Made It To Tchort - Probably Softlocked. Please help if you can.

[Lime]

So I've finally made it to Tchort, it's taken me 250+ hours to get here using my first character. I've read that most people use an internet build but I said nope, not me. Surely I can do this, almost gave up a few times here or there. Anyways, beginning of the game was tough then once I got the hang of it I was really chugging through. Then I hit Deep Caverns. Oh god this area is just cruel. I thought I was softlocked a few times, and I'm terrified to even get through some of the areas because the Tchortlings are a pain in the balls, but I did it. I managed to get the gate repaired and open (not that the wiki is much help whatsoever). I have a lot of the mutagens but have no clue how to do the puzzle and not much help is anywhere online besides "go find the sequence". Which, at this point, I just can't be bothered to do.

I want to kill this ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ boss and be done with it. The problem is, I'm reading that people do 200+ damage a hit, which I can quite literally only do with the best grenades in the game. Someone said that another fellows stats on Psi (which were all 180ish) were severely low, and should be around 300. Mine are at most 80; how in gods name did I make it this far? Someone also said that if you made it to Tchort, your build can't be THAT bad. I don't think I can beat it, I'm running desperately thin on supplies in Deep Caverns and navigating it is dangerous for me. I made it to the final boss, surely I can beat the thing, right? What does anyone suggest? If I can't, I'd literally rather download someones save with their character and do it because I just don't care. I can SMELL the end of this game and have hit a huge wall. Oh... please don't tell me I'm really stuck here...

[Lime]

If anyone has a save file right before Tchort with any build that can beat him, I'll take it. I would post screenshots of my build but I'm not sure I can. I will list out all my stats if I must.

[Qiox]

You didn't actually tell us what your build is. You mention PSI around 80, but is that it? Are you actually a pure PSI build that uses no weapons? What kind of advice do you expect when you tell us practically nothing about your character?

[Lime]

Originally posted by Qiox:

You didn't actually tell us what your build is. You mention PSI around 80, but is that it? Are you actually a pure PSI build that uses no weapons? What kind of advice do you expect when you tell us practically nothing about your character?

I'm sorry, I'm very frustrated and don't usually keep up with the forums of this game. All I know is that I suspect I'm grossly underleveled. Out of habit I sort of tried to make a "balanced" character. Psi has carried me very far, specifically Metathermics. Also throwing, grenades and such have been a staple. I also use a shotgun, and a laser pistol primarily, but sometimes switch to a 7.62 Corsair if the situation calls for it. Hope this list helps. Seeing other peoples builds I genuinely don't know 1: how I'm so underleveled since I've done basically all the quests I can find and 2: How I made it this far anyways. I have been unable to even kill a single tentacle, or reach Tchort close enough to be within melee range. My stealth is abysmal, and I think at this point I have only 5 Advanced Hypos left total. I have a ♥♥♥♥ ton of ammo, can get some more grenades if need be, and know about that huge amount of loot near the faceless.

Here are all my skills.
Guns 70 (75)
Throwing 65 (76)
Crossbows 10 (45)
Melee 7 (45)

Dodge 66 (89)
Evasion 75 (100)

Stealth 40
Hacking 70 (106)
Lockpicking 70 (90)
Pickpocketing 40 (46)
Traps 30 (48)

Mechanics 60 (85)
Electronics 79 (112)
Chemistry 65 (98)
Biology 65 (101)
Tailoring 36 (51)

Thought Control 60 (90)
Psychokenisis 60 (90)
Metathermics 80 (113)
Temporal Manipulation 11 (33)

Persuasion 65 (89)
Intimidation 35 (51)
Mercantile 40 (84)

[fruit flavored ENERGY DRINK]

my eyes

[Lime]

Originally posted by fruit flavored ENERGY DRINK:

my eyes

Tell me the good news and the bad news doc

[King Fossil]

The good news is you aren't underlevelled.
The bad news is your character is awful.

[fruit flavored ENERGY DRINK]

Originally posted by Lime:

Originally posted by fruit flavored ENERGY DRINK:

my eyes

Tell me the good news and the bad news doc

...they burn

anyway, a "balanced" character is definitely not how you beat this game. if you really have spent that many skill points that means you're level 28... and you haven't even come close to maxing out your primary means of damage... hoooooo boy. assuming you're playing on normal since you've made it this far with that built, you must have a ton of HP, which is something. it's definitely... a thing... of all time.

i'd ask what your attributes and feats are, but it's kinda irrelevant at this point. it's a ♥♥♥♥♥ situation but it might be salvageable. you're gonna need to do the mutagen puzzle and probably get more hypos though. pull up a guide to find where all the mutagens are and use the mutagen puzzle helper to figure out the thing

you might lose a few brain cells in the process and have no guarantee of success in the end due to your likely abysmal damage output,
but hey
that's life

[Lime]

Originally posted by fruit flavored ENERGY DRINK:

Originally posted by Lime:

Tell me the good news and the bad news doc

...they burn

anyway, a "balanced" character is definitely not how you beat this game. if you really have spent that many skill points that means you're level 28... and you haven't even come close to maxing out your primary means of damage... hoooooo boy. assuming you're playing on normal since you've made it this far with that built, you must have a ton of HP, which is something. it's definitely... a thing... of all time.

i'd ask what your attributes and feats are, but it's kinda irrelevant at this point. it's a ♥♥♥♥♥ situation but it might be salvageable. you're gonna need to do the mutagen puzzle and probably get more hypos though. pull up a guide to find where all the mutagens are and use the mutagen puzzle helper to figure out the thing

you might lose a few brain cells in the process and have no guarantee of success in the end due to your likely abysmal damage output,
but hey
that's life

Well this is more optimistic than I expected. I'm going to really have to play conservative. I'm not sure where I'll be able to get some more hypos. The problem I see is that I'm going to have to get hypos without somehow taking that much damage. I guess It will be basically impossible for me to do without finishing the mutagen puzzle. As far as I know it's different for each playthrough no? I watched someone do it online and the number outputs were entirely different. My health is 396 total. I don't think that's probably all that much. I'm sure I can find the mutagen. Is there any tip to avoiding the Eye of Tchort crap? It's pretty brutal for me. I can kill pretty much everything easily except the Ttortling Devourers which rock me pretty good. Because I have the Biohazard suit, the sowers basically do nothing to me and as long as I can kill the scanners before their attack is off i'm good. The problem is they all come in large groups usually. What can I do to actually maximize my damage output at this point besides grenades which I assume wont be enough?

[King Fossil]

Doing the mutagen puzzle kills four of the tentacles. Given how bad your character is I'm not sure that'll be enough. The remaining three tentacles seem like they'll still be a lot for you.
I guess it can't hurt to try though. It's not like there's any drawback for doing it.

[fruit flavored ENERGY DRINK]

oh no i'm not optimistic, but mutagen's really your only option if you wanna keep attempting the fight. you might really be softlocked if your feat and attribute choices are just as bad. i don't remember much about the tchort fight but check the types of damage you receive and wear appropriate armor. use all your long duration buff items before going in. check if you can put that biology to use. if you have irongut for example that'll negate the bio damage from tentacles. i'm not sure if you can find any ingredients for biology stuff in DC though

as for damage, idk just throw everything

for the eye of tchort crap, get echoing soliloquy if you haven't already and just make sure you plan out where you gonna go and run around the areas as fast as possible

[Lime]

Originally posted by fruit flavored ENERGY DRINK:

oh no i'm not optimistic, but mutagen's really your only option if you wanna keep attempting the fight. you might really be softlocked if your feat and attribute choices are just as bad. i don't remember much about the tchort fight but check the types of damage you receive and wear appropriate armor. use all your long duration buff items before going in. check if you can put that biology to use. if you have irongut for example that'll negate the bio damage from tentacles. i'm not sure if you can find any ingredients for biology stuff in DC though

as for damage, idk just throw everything

for the eye of tchort crap, get echoing soliloquy if you haven't already and just make sure you plan out where you gonna go and run around the areas as fast as possible

The Bio suit basically negates all bio damage. The only damage i'm really taking is once my shield gets burned and from Cryo. The real problem I guess is the sheer quantity of attacks they can throw at me, so i'm sure the mutagen puzzle will help. I just don't know if will be enough because my damage just might not be able to keep up with his self-healing, and if it can't I really don't know what I can do, if anything. If i'm softlocked this far in I think I just have to quit because this game is already long as ♥♥♥♥ and I'm obviously not equipped for it exactly.

[Voroff]

Originally posted by Lime:

Originally posted by fruit flavored ENERGY DRINK:

my eyes

Tell me the good news and the bad news doc

Hahahahaha, it looks like my first chara. I had far more crossbows and traps at the expense of crafting, but had maxxed guns. Basically cheesed everything i could for tchort :p Took .. a lot of tries and different approaches, but you too may pull it off. Won't be pleasant, as you've tasted already.


For "eye of tchort" : get out of dodge when it pops up, for it to disapear. Exiting the relevant maps, being it going backwards or via small hatches leading to underground bunker-chambers. I guess you already knew that, but in case ...
Did you encountered a guy named Leo ?
Moreover, the depot warehouses are full of stuff, i'd recommend (maybe) swapping your biosuit for a simple gas mask; at least in any case rekit and retool.

For the fight itself : if you do the mutagent puzzle, you'll face 4 random tentacles instead of the full house of seven. Then, the 4 mutagen tanks at the borders of the arena can be destroyed, to limit tchort regeneration and the re-spawn rate of the tentacles once dispatched (a lot easier to do in stealth, dropping TNT with rythm and purpose, dodging the (literal) river of tchortlings with ... excellent placement)

For the hordes of tchortlings i used cooked shots of fire-chem pistols : everything flees for two turns, and when they come back they are ready to get another "fear" status : cheese !

When you'll get your win, get a good drink too. Prosit !

[Alabester]

Ahm.. Yes, The situation looks like brutal -

Q1. Do you have supplies on Faceless? They have bunch of ammos, grenades.. it's just 1 or 2 block from their outpost.

First of all, How is difficulty are you playing? Normal? Hard?
There is a way - make a high-grade cloaking device, and medicore-boosting stealth items(well, 51 tailoring is abysmal)

First of all, destory all mutagen tanks on 11, 1, 5, 7 first with TNT, use all stealth-boost,
plus you can exploit turn-based movement for running away, and adrenaline boost affects your movement speed while you're stealth.

High-grade shield mitigate damage a lot with specific tentacles - beware mind-controlling one, it's nasty.

It could be challenging to clear Tchort, but it might be worth trying - can you share savefile if you can?

[Diakoptes]

do the mutagen puzzle, weakens the boss, use a guide, then sneak and nades I guess

sounds like a rough experience, I mean, I dislike builds and meta gaming but focus on one thing and do it really well, if you every play this again that is

[heyitswalter]

rooting for you, zoner