Questions about crafting

[Ikarius]

So, do I understand correctly that the "workbenches" you can get for your house only increase your skill, and have no effect on the result beyond allowing you to work with higher quality components, and it's only a 15% bonus? Seems a bit... weak, considering how much effort/expense it is to get the workbenches

Is it correct that there is no electronics feat/perk for giving components a quality boost, like skinner/clothier for tailoring?

I've got a set of components for crafting a new psi headband- Q112 universal modulator, Q101 psionic mufflers, and Q88 stable neural amplifier. All came from the coretech vendor, with I think a single inventory refresh for him. I just finished up and unlocked my house, without watching a bunch of inventory refreshes to see what the quality range and availability looks like, is that a decent set to craft a new headband with, should I hold out for some higher-quality components, or save some of those for my absolute final headband? Just not sure what higher quality component availability looks like.

Lastly, where do you get higher quality hopper/siphoner hides? Hopper hides, I cant seem to come up with anything better than around Q30, Siphoners seem to top out around Q60... it'd be nice to get some higher quality leathers to build better armor...

[Fenix-Venix]

No feat for that, yes.
It's a good quality, but not high-end.
~130 it almost and-game, ~150-160 is top at that moment.
Nowhere. Just kill damp siphoners, and look for 60+ quality.
For hoppers - there is one place in game, where you will find this, but that's a little spoiler, you will get ~50 quality if you read game texts and look carefully.

[destroyor]

You should go ahead and craft that psi headband. You'll eventually find up to Q130 components around mid~late game. If you invest in mercantile to open up vendor's special inventory you'll get even higher quality components but it's still pure luck.
Siphoner hides - you can farm them (Siphoner Pools, southwest of Junkyard) for up to Q64.
Cave Hopper hides - these are a pain in the ass to farm and I don't have the patient to farm them. Someone did get a Q56 hopper hide but I never manage to find any above Q39.

[Qiox]

To me, the main benefit of that 15% crafting bonus is that I can spend less on crafting skill to reach a desired requirement leaving me more points to invest in other skills.

I find that to be a rather important benefit. And really, there's not much else to spend late game money on.

[Ikarius]

Thanks for the responses- good stuff to know. I'll keep trying to figure out where decent cave hopper hides come from... they are annoying as heck to "farm", though I think scavenging vendors for components is even worse.... hard to find vendors that sell decent quality laminated fabric for a tactical vest seems nigh impossible. I think the weapon shop in core city sells it, but doesn't stock it reliably, so he may or may not have it, and if he does have it, it's a total crapshoot as to what quality you'll get. My best currently is a Q63 from the junkyard weapon vendor, which seems... ridiculous. I've hit invictus in core city arena, finished the coretech questline, gotten my house, dealt with the beast in foundry, got my hands on super steel, and many components I still can't lay hands on in decent quality. I got a Q62 psi beetle carapace from the two respawning goliath beetles in the sewers of core city, and a Q88 sturdy vest from a vendor, and I'd like a decent quality lam fabric to push my mitigation up on the psi tac vest I'll build. Waiting 45 real-time minutes for vendors to restock is just painful, and doing the "vendor/respawn circuit" is pretty obnoxious.

In short, crafting is quickly becoming incredibly tedious.

[Qiox]

Originally posted by Ikarius:

Waiting 45 real-time minutes for vendors to restock is just painful, and doing the "vendor/respawn circuit" is pretty obnoxious.

In short, crafting is quickly becoming incredibly tedious.

Have not tried it myself but I've always assumed you could fool the game by changing the system time on your pc.

Personally I just go with what I get and don't farm vendors or mobs for mats.

I know I'll always play again and can hope for something better next time.

[destroyor]

Just use Cheat Engine (it's free), enable speedhack - 500X, stay outside the vendor's zone so they can restock, raise and repeat.

[Ikarius]

@destroyor - oh hell. that's one way to take care of it. I did test changing system clock... and confirmed that does nothing.