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Barely any lockpicks / hacking devices?
Ok, so i'm on my 3rd main quest or so and already ran across like 20+ locked doors that have to be picked or hacked... where the hell am i supposed to get the tools to do so???
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King Fossil Jul 25, 2019 @ 8:07am 
Just buy them. Ezra sells hacking tools. Lucas/Harold/Jack/Jonas all sell lockpicks. If you give Jonas his watch back for free he even gives you a discount, so that's nice.
J-12 Jul 25, 2019 @ 8:10am 
What, did you expected the game to explain you such mechanics? Pffft, fork you. (c) fanboys of this forum.
Hex: Onii-Chan Jul 25, 2019 @ 8:50am 
Nvm, i'm at the GMS compound and it seems like it's one of those games where you have the correct and the wrong builds. I went for PSI, which is pretty good against animals, but complete and utter garbage against bots. Of which there are 4, all dealing more damage than the opponents before, having massive armour and stun grenades.

Hilarious, really.
EGGZxOVERxExZ Jul 25, 2019 @ 9:02am 
Originally posted by Evil Eye:
What, did you expected the game to explain you such mechanics? Pffft, fork you. (c) fanboys of this forum.


+1 thats how people really act on here
That and being told "you must be American" so some bigotry as well.
King Fossil Jul 25, 2019 @ 9:19am 
Originally posted by Murf_This!:
Nvm, i'm at the GMS compound and it seems like it's one of those games where you have the correct and the wrong builds. I went for PSI, which is pretty good against animals, but complete and utter garbage against bots. Of which there are 4, all dealing more damage than the opponents before, having massive armour and stun grenades.

Hilarious, really.
Psychokinesis is good against robots. I guess you didn't take it? It's basically the only way to deal with them as pure psi.
Jean-Luc Jul 25, 2019 @ 9:23am 
Yeah, you have to either take Psychokinesis or combine psi with some kind of weapon.

Originally posted by Evil Eye:
What, did you expected the game to explain you such mechanics? Pffft, fork you. (c) fanboys of this forum.

But it does explain it, the tutorial explains how lockpicking and hacking work. As for buying stuff, you just go to shops, surely that doesn't need explaining.
Last edited by Jean-Luc; Jul 25, 2019 @ 9:30am
J-12 Jul 25, 2019 @ 9:35am 
Erza is, and i would not be afraid of such word, hidden pretty well for people who play first time. When i started playing it, i thought someone just going to handle me one of hacking devices sooner or later, only after some internet search i found out about this guy existing in a room with two other named NPC's who didn't had any dialogs, so i would have no reason to think that he would be important character who also deals in important gameplay-related things.
This was a very fool-proof choice of a game design, no doubt.

Originally posted by Jean-Luc:
Yeah, you have to either take Psychokinesis or combine psi with some kind of weapon.

Originally posted by Evil Eye:
What, did you expected the game to explain you such mechanics? Pffft, fork you. (c) fanboys of this forum.

But it does explain it, the tutorial explains how lockpicking and hacking work. As for buying stuff, you just go to shops, surely that doesn't need explaining.
Hex: Onii-Chan Jul 25, 2019 @ 10:01am 
Originally posted by King Fossil:
Psychokinesis is good against robots. I guess you didn't take it? It's basically the only way to deal with them as pure psi.

Didn't have high enough level.

Originally posted by Jean-Luc:

But it does explain it, the tutorial explains how lockpicking and hacking work. As for buying stuff, you just go to shops, surely that doesn't need explaining.

I know how to lock pick, it's just that there are 50 locks and 3 lockpicks
Serendipitous Jul 25, 2019 @ 11:28am 
Originally posted by Evil Eye:
What, did you expected the game to explain you such mechanics? Pffft, fork you. (c) fanboys of this forum.

Probably still better than being a guy who hates the game by his own admission, yet still hangs around for weeks on forum after dropping it, just to diss the game and people.

Seriously, chill, dude
Serendipitous Jul 25, 2019 @ 11:31am 
Originally posted by Murf_This!:
I know how to lock pick, it's just that there are 50 locks and 3 lockpicks

They are sold in armory and engineering department (by Harold). There are plenty of them and they are quite cheap. Hacking tool is sold by Ezra in engineering department and only needs batteries to work. I think one also can be found in some of the starting areas.
Last edited by Serendipitous; Jul 25, 2019 @ 11:32am
Serendipitous Jul 25, 2019 @ 11:37am 
Originally posted by D I N G:
Originally posted by Evil Eye:
What, did you expected the game to explain you such mechanics? Pffft, fork you. (c) fanboys of this forum.


+1 thats how people really act on here
That and being told "you must be American" so some bigotry as well.

You can actually notice that people who don't start their conversation with sentences that roughly translates to "i can't do stuff, which means the game is shit, so help me you fucking neckbeards" actually tend to receive sincere help from the community around here. On the other hand, if you behave like everything is game's and other people's fault, you get called on it, and probably trolled.
Qiox Jul 25, 2019 @ 11:42am 
Originally posted by Murf_This!:
Nvm, i'm at the GMS compound and it seems like it's one of those games where you have the correct and the wrong builds. I went for PSI, which is pretty good against animals, but complete and utter garbage against bots. Of which there are 4, all dealing more damage than the opponents before, having massive armour and stun grenades.

Hilarious, really.

You are mistaken. There are many different ways of dealing with the bots.

In a room on that level you are guaranteed to find 3 EMP grenades. No skill required to use those. You can also buy more if needed back at SGS. Also, HE grenades do significant damage to the bots.

With those you can take them all out quite easily.

Or if you invested in stealth, just sneak your way through the entire level. You don't have to kill any of the bots.

Or as mentioned, the Electricity damage Psi spell is great against the bots.


What I like to do is get their attention and then duck into a room (the one where you find the EMP grenades works fine).

Close the door and end your turn. Next turn, open the door, then close the door. You have just enough AP to open and close it in one turn. So don't do anything else or you won't be able to close it.

Do that for a few turns and you will end up with all 4 bots jammed in front of the door.

Now when you open it and see that, take a step back and throw an EMP against the wall behind them. This way, no matter how much you miss due to low throwing skill, it will still hit all of them.

Since they are stunned you don't have to close the door until 2 turns later. Therefore on your next turn, throw and HE grenade. Then close the door.

Now, go back to doing the open/close routine until your cooldowns are done, AND the bots are no longer stun immune.

Then just repeat the above, EMP + HE.

Depending on what difficulty you are playing on, you should not need more than the 3 EMPs you found, and maybe 2 HE grenades.


You can kill them like that on any build.

The moral of this story? Don't jump to the conclusion that what you thought of to deal with a situation is the only option available. This game has deep combat mechanics and many different ways of dealing with the situations you encounter.

Therefore, ask for advice instead of ranting.

This is not "one of those games."
Serendipitous Jul 25, 2019 @ 11:48am 
Well, there are stronger and weaker builds, though if you play on Normal\Easy, most of the stuff is viable, it's just that PSI is the strongest weapon in the game, by wide margin, so it's not the problem of the PSI here. Though it does generally require more system mastery than other stuff. Meaning that knowing what you are doing is more important with PSI.

Still, as Qiox said, there are more than one way to skin the cat. Discovering those ways is part of the fun.

P.S. on my first playthrough i didn't even fought those bots.
Hex: Onii-Chan Jul 25, 2019 @ 11:51am 
Originally posted by Qiox:
This is not "one of those games."

It kinda is tho. Yes, it is *technically* possible to beat these bots, which i did with the dumb popping in and out of doors, but then i was greeted with a bunch of raiders who dealt 60-80 damage a turn. Which meant another hour trying to figure out how to kite them the best.

I shouldn't be barely winning fights while maxing out PSI powers.

Anyway, the game has it's moments, but the biggest dealbreaker for me is the asinine trading system. Am i actually supposed to write down what a trader needs, run for 15 minutes back to the base, pick up the item, run for 15 more minutes back and only then trade them in?

Cmon, there is "hardcore" and then there is "annoying on purpose". And i don't begin to have a clue why and when monsters & vendors reset.
Qiox Jul 25, 2019 @ 11:59am 
Originally posted by Murf_This!:
Originally posted by Qiox:
This is not "one of those games."

It kinda is tho. Yes, it is *technically* possible to beat these bots, which i did with the dumb popping in and out of doors, but then i was greeted with a bunch of raiders who dealt 60-80 damage a turn. Which meant another hour trying to figure out how to kite them the best.

I shouldn't be barely winning fights while maxing out PSI powers.

Anyway, the game has it's moments, but the biggest dealbreaker for me is the asinine trading system. Am i actually supposed to write down what a trader needs, run for 15 minutes back to the base, pick up the item, run for 15 more minutes back and only then trade them in?

Cmon, there is "hardcore" and then there is "annoying on purpose". And i don't begin to have a clue why and when monsters & vendors reset.

The trading system teaches you not to be hoarder and instead only take things of value. And there's no need to run back and forth. Nothing decays in containers or on the ground. Either pick a spot on the ground by the trader, or a nearby barrel and dump any that you would want to sell. If they don't want it now, you can always try again another time.


Just because you are playing a "maxed out psi" build does not mean you should be ignoring everything else that is available to you in the game.

Stealth, traps and grenades are there to complement all builds. You don't have to use all of them, but using none of them just does not make any sense.

Why handicap yourself and complain that it is too hard?
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Date Posted: Jul 25, 2019 @ 7:59am
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