Wouldn't Set Classes Be Easier to Balance at This Point?

[UltraReviewShow]

Wouldn't set classes be easier to balance at this point? I mean the more restrictive the stat points are, and the more difficult the game is, the more likely people are just going to go look up set builds and and put points in whatever they're told to along a set path anyway.

Here are my suggestions for classes. You don't have to pay for it styg, these ideas are free,

1st class. Dorf: The only class allowed to build weapons and armor at all. Not allowed to run or dodge. Reduces chance of taking critical damage due to strong dorf beard protecting neck. Unless you play a female, then you're just ♥♥♥♥♥♥ dude.

2nd class. Elf: You can only wield handguns, all other guns are unusable. You can only use light armor unless you max out strength, then you're allowed to wear one piece of heavy armor with only a slight trade-off of losing half of your action points and being unable to dodge or run.

3rd class. Mage: You now lose seventy-five percent of your health for picking a mage. You psi energy no longer regenerates until you go back to your house and sleep in your bed. Potions have been removed. You will be followed around by a small invincible dog that blocks paths and calls you the n word throughout the entirety of the game.

But in all seriousness I'm not mad guys.

[Batruha]

> But in all seriousness I'm not mad guys.
No you are crazy

[Batruha]

Personally, I play as a mage and I have not looked at the builds on the Internet. It’s not easy for me, but also not very difficult. In some moments the magician is weaker than anyone else, but it is still possible to win.

[King Fossil]

The cool thing about Underrail is there are like a billion builds so even if you think psi is totally ruined and unplayable now you can just play something else and it's still good.
Also I'll take elf thanks. I want to be laser elf. Laser elf sounds awesome.

[Tamiore]

Originally posted by King Fossil:

if you think psi is totally ruined and unplayable now

Does anyone actually thinks this way..?

[Qiox]

Originally posted by Tamiore:

Originally posted by King Fossil:

if you think psi is totally ruined and unplayable now

Does anyone actually thinks this way..?

Based on the comments I've seen, it is usually just people who have not actually tried to play it.

[gallaghan2000]

Originally posted by Tamiore:

Originally posted by King Fossil:

if you think psi is totally ruined and unplayable now

Does anyone actually thinks this way..?

I don't think it's unplayable, I just don't have fun with it anymore. Additionally, it was actually a highlight of the game for me, until innervation.

[ṣ̷h̵ệ̵p̷.̷ ̸😈]

Originally posted by Tamiore:

Originally posted by King Fossil:

if you think psi is totally ruined and unplayable now

Does anyone actually thinks this way..?

Just people who never opted in to the experimental and rolled a new character in the first place.

[gallaghan2000]

Originally posted by shep.sama:

Originally posted by Tamiore:

Does anyone actually thinks this way..?

Just people who never opted in to the experimental and rolled a new character in the first place.

And the trolls like shep who want the new stuff but have never actually played with it, but want to claim it's the most fun thing ever. This is the third time you've implied that about me. You must really enjoy being personally offensive without bothering to learn what's really going on.

[ṣ̷h̵ệ̵p̷.̷ ̸😈]

Originally posted by gallaghan2000:

And the trolls like shep who want the new stuff but have never actually played with it, but want to claim it's the most fun thing ever. This is the third time you've implied that about me. You must really enjoy being personally offensive without bothering to learn what's really going on.

I do not know if you are simply self-centered or paranoid, especially when I didn't even quote you. I don't even recognize your name. But if the shoe fits, wear it.

https://i.imgur.com/rkP2D34.png
https://i.imgur.com/ASpSVJr.jpeg
https://i.imgur.com/C1jbC6K.png


Here, now you show me your new character rolled on the experimental patch. Because I've actually played it from lvl 1 into the midgame. Make sure to include the date and patch of the first save.

[gallaghan2000]

Originally posted by shep.sama:

Originally posted by gallaghan2000:

And the trolls like shep who want the new stuff but have never actually played with it, but want to claim it's the most fun thing ever. This is the third time you've implied that about me. You must really enjoy being personally offensive without bothering to learn what's really going on.

I do not know if you are simply self-centered or paranoid, especially when I didn't even quote you. I don't even recognize your name. But if the shoe fits, wear it.

https://i.imgur.com/rkP2D34.png
https://i.imgur.com/ASpSVJr.jpeg
https://i.imgur.com/C1jbC6K.png


Here, now you show me your new character rolled on the experimental patch. Because I've actually played it from lvl 1 into the midgame. Make sure to include the date and patch of the first save.

Oh, I'm definitely paranoid, but given that this is the second time you claimed the shoe fits bs, followed by a lol when another person agreed with me that it looked like you were responding to me... well, I don't have much reason to believe you. Kudos on 'showing' me that you've been playing with the patch.

Other than that, you can check my previously shared screenshots to see the innervation icon up in the right corner and the date(s) they were uploaded [mostly because I saw something that I forgot Styg enabled since I last played the game a year ago and thought it was a bug]. I don't really have proof on hand that I played the current patch, much less that I started that character from level 1 without Forced Innervation, mostly because I still haven't dredged up the desire to play more after my rage quit episode a week ago. My difficulty as I've said before is Normal, so feel free to lord your skill at playing the game over me.

[ṣ̷h̵ệ̵p̷.̷ ̸😈]

Originally posted by gallaghan2000:

I don't really have proof on hand that I played the current patch, much less that I started that character from level 1 without Forced Innervation, mostly because I still haven't dredged up the desire to play more after my rage quit episode a week ago.

Wow, you sure did type a whole lot of words to deflect from not actually posting any proof that you have played with the changes. I didn't say the date you posted it, the lvl 1 save date&patch as shown in my 3rd link. I have no idea what you're talking about as you've posted nothing in this thread, but you could have just opted in to the patch on a previous save and you'd have the icon, so that means nothing at all. You took several hours to respond but you couldn't have taken a simple screenshot? I guess you didn't think I'd call your bluff. Well at least everyone can see that yet another one of the ones whining about the changes obviously hasn't really tried them.

idr, but if I said it before I'm sure it was apropos. Thanks for caring so much about me tho, random private profile person #2107346873.

[gallaghan2000]

Originally posted by shep.sama:

Originally posted by gallaghan2000:

I don't really have proof on hand that I played the current patch, much less that I started that character from level 1 without Forced Innervation, mostly because I still haven't dredged up the desire to play more after my rage quit episode a week ago.

Wow, you sure did type a whole lot of words to deflect from not actually posting any proof that you have played with the changes. I didn't say the date you posted it, the lvl 1 save date&patch as shown in my 3rd link. I have no idea what you're talking about as you've posted nothing in this thread, but you could have just opted in to the patch on a previous save and you'd have the icon, so that means nothing at all. You took several hours to respond but you couldn't have taken a simple screenshot? I guess you didn't think I'd call your bluff. Well at least everyone can see that yet another one of the ones whining about the changes obviously hasn't really tried them.

idr, but if I said it before I'm sure it was apropos. Thanks for caring so much about me tho, random private profile person #2107346873.

Hey shep, if you want to see my screen shots, click on my username and go to my profile followed by checking my screenshots like I can do by clicking on your name. I still have no desire to open the game up, so that's what I have laying around. You can call it whining all you want, but if you're not having fun with something, you're not going to play with it right. It's the same concept only without your passive aggressive insults and 'proof.'

[ṣ̷h̵ệ̵p̷.̷ ̸😈]

What I asked for was very clear. Opting in to the experimental on a save you had previously, for two map tiles, and expecting anyone to believe you tried it isn't that. I'm done with you. Do better, or don't.

[gallaghan2000]

Originally posted by shep.sama:

What I asked for was very clear. Opting in to the experimental on a save you had previously, for two map tiles, and expecting anyone to believe you tried it isn't that. I'm done with you. Do better, or don't.

So let me get this straight, not only are you insinuating that I'm lying because I don't happen to enjoy innervation. You are straight up calling me a liar to my face that I have played some forty hours of the game on experimental settings for a character from level one on. Wow. I honestly hope that your behavior comes around and bites you in real life for your inappropriate actions. You're right, I should be done with you because you'll never be satisfied. If it isn't this, then it'll be because you have decided that I'm a whiner or some such. Thank you for reminding me of the first rule of the internet, don't feed the trolls.

[mojave_wastelander]

So the game of "you haven't even played it yet" is still on.
Ok, here[imgur.com]

Thus I officially rate this update as being useless and an inconvenience for me.

Moreover seeing those stats I wonder how is this a "psi fix" when WILL is not a hard requirement to actually properly use psi powers. This is why psi powers should have hit chance as everything else so a low WILL psi user would be impractical (just like a pure psi user would have hard time using any melee/ranged weapons).
Just imagine that psi powers have WILL/INT requirements. For some reason is expected that to wield a sledgehammer you need minimal STR, but to cast best powers you just need skill, such psi update.