shooting mechanics is absolute garbage

[MrGenevaConvention]

I burnt out completely to miss shots with 13 perception with 75% chance of hitting 3 times in a rough. Sniper build they said, yes.

[MrGenevaConvention]

Its only one case.....but there are more of them

[SuperBritishQuokka]

dodge and evasion, lights and distance plays a role. Furthermore I don't know what you expect with a 75% chance. That's RNG for you. Minimize your risk if you so annoyed with it. grenades are your friend.

[cypherusuh]

Just roll balanced Psi build with 100% hit chance on 14 range lul

[Szarekh the Silent King]

Pffft. I've got three 1 rolls (misses) on d20 dice at Pathfinder Kingmaker in a row a couple of times, and double 1 rolls in a row a lot more times. I don't anything special about your situation. Normal RNG.

[dergefata]

75% hit chance (3 in 4) means you have over a 1.5% probability of missing three times in a row. That's a high enough probability to realistically expect to see it happen several times in a play through.

True, unweighted, fair RNG feels unfair because you're used to playing games that cheat in the player's favor, either with actual outcome forcing or with bad luck insurance.

[MrGenevaConvention]

Its out of common sense. I managed to miss shots even with 82% where enemy was literaly in front of me. ITS NOT DND or Warhammer40k where you need to roll a dice to perform an action and all ingame calculations game does itself and gives you outcoming information. So I invested most of my character points in perceptaion and skills points in guns to make one shot/one kill sniper build and unexpectedly it doesnt scale my chara enouth to 90% chance of hitting target and its some where between 65% smgs and 75% sniper rifles (7-8 tiles far targets). In this case my hitting chances above 1/1 or 2/1, 3/1 but in result gameplay experiance shows they are 1/2, 1/3, 1/4 and even 1/5 so 50%, 33%, 25%. If game mechanics applies evasion, light and distance to resulting chances they are more like 25%, 33%, 40% - and it would be fare, punishing but fare. RNG distorts resulting chances and doesnt give you clear information ( when PSI abilities have 100%) Come on

[cypherusuh]

Tbh with max gun and at least 14 Per, most enemies won't be a problem as long as you know the general mechanic. The most important part is lighting, as it'll decrease your hit chance up to 30% I think. You could use night vision goggles or just throw flare / molotov to combat this.
What makes me annoyed is how the maximum hit chance is 95% for non psi. It's ridiculous how a 19 Per mega gunner dude with top-notch equipment could still miss a rathound on melee range

Meanwhile some 3 Per blind-ass random cave dweller mushroom snorter pipeworker could shoot magical heat-seeking ice bullets that could 100% hit the target regardless of anything, as long as it's not behind fences (even then, said pipeworker could just use imaginary hand to fist their ass cavity)

[Szarekh the Silent King]

Originally posted by cypherusuh:

Tbh with max gun and at least 14 Per, most enemies It's ridiculous how a 19 Per mega gunner dude with top-notch equipment could still miss a rathound on melee range

And will miss even with 20 Perception and 340+ Gun skill. 95% is 95%. :)

[cypherusuh]

That 5% is also massive annoyance for sword build, it would be better if the default hit rate is 90%, but it's possible to reach 100% if it has significant difference between target dodge/evasion and user skills

[Szarekh the Silent King]

Originally posted by cypherusuh:

That 5% is also massive annoyance for sword build, it would be better if the default hit rate is 90%, but it's possible to reach 100% if it has significant difference between target dodge/evasion and user skills

Well, I'm ok with that. It reminds me of DnD and others d20 games. When even if you outweight your target in attack-vs-defense more than 20+ you'll still got a chanse to miss because rolling 1 on d20 is always a miss. And you can even roll 1 on d20 several times in a row. :)