Tips for the 'Gator fight in the gladiator area?

[RealCoolJeff]

I'm having a lot of trouble with this fight, what's the trick?

I am finding it impossible to kill all the 'gators before they end up eating enough meat to do the 30 dmg spear stab to the witch you're trying to protect. I can keep her healed well enough for the first few hits, but i can't keep them from lowering all four pillars.

Do the 'gators need to eat the meat from both preassure plates in order to lower all four pillars; Could i just defend one of the plates to stop the witchie-poo from getting killed?

Is there a way to get rid of the meat, or stop the pillars/spears from going off?

It also feels like unless im rolling really lucky i cant hit/dmg for crap. I know thats just the way of tabletop rpgs, but its still frustrating. :P

[l1ttl3buddh4]

What difficulty you are on? I played on Normal, rushed with Takate and Naurim directly in to force come Alligators (damn took me long to find that out) to them and attack them. They sunked 3 Pillars by me so far. I got them real fast to low hp and than they tried most to avoid me. And its helpfull to set the bushes on fire!

[illustrious.jfunk]

As for general hit/miss, make sure you've leveled up your primary weapon skill. At this point you should have at least 16 probably. Move the attack/defend slider on it all the way to attack if you need more of a boost. Using power attacks hurts your chance to hit, so use normal attacks (or feint) if an enemy is particularly difficult to hit.

As for the gators, I split my warrior types up to intercept them as well as possible and keep mage in the center to heal when needed. They tend to wander off on their own from time to time, let them go when they do rather than chase them down and take that time to intercept other crocs.

[General Malaise]

It's normally not too bad for me. Try and lure them over the spikes as much as possible, keep yourself healed from the fonts. It's usually only when there's 2 left, and with low health, that they'll head back for the provisions. You have to be prepared to try and head them off - or even better get between the provisions and Caymen.

Also be aware - you have another fairly tough fight to follow, so do your best to go into that one healthy.

[General Malaise]

Just in response to illustrious.jfunk post - I've always hit them with hammer blow. They do dodge a bit, but on the whole, I still think that does the job quickest.

[RealCoolJeff]

Hmm,

It may just be that i was going into this fight with my mage at 18ish mana and no pots and Takate revived at 1hp from dying in the previous fight.

Guess i will just have to take the previous fight slower. I noticed that the crocs would run away after taking so much dmg. I can manage to kill 4-5 of them but then the last two always manage to eat and trigger the spears.

Didnt know about the bushes and fire, i'll have to try that. I was making use of the spikes though, they definetly helped unless i told someone to attack the wrong hex of the alligator and they gleefully hop on the spikes too. heh.

[illustrious.jfunk]

Also note the healing fountains on both this map and the previous map. They are right next to the start on this map (in fact Takate should be able to reach one and drink on his first move) and in the farthest corners of the previous map.

If you're in rough shape at the end of the previous map, you can cheese it a little if you want by leaving one enemy alive while all your characters heal up at the fountain before killing him.

[General Malaise]

Actually, on hard, I find the death wheels before this map a much harder fight.

[illustrious.jfunk]

Originally posted by stevethebarbarian:

Actually, on hard, I find the death wheels before this map a much harder fight.

Agreed. One trick to the death wheels...let the one in front of Aurelia move twice, then reverse its direction. It will never hit her, at least not during the many, many turns I've taken on that map after doing so. So you can then push the fight all the way to corners by the healing fountains and only have to pay attention to the closest wheel when the time comes.

[sunwalker0347]

Last advice on the death wheels is sage (Thanks illusttrious.jfunk). That'll make the fight easier my next playthrough. For the gators: If you have healthy people, send EVERYONE but Zurbaran rushing in two teams for the pressure plates right from the start and you should be able to stop 3 of the gators from eating. I keep Zur near the maiden and have him light brush on fire, then have him him cast walls or healing on her as needed, and try and physically block the gators from getting to her.

Takate was my hardest to hit so he went alone to the closet plate to him. This seems to work fine on any difficulty setting with most party compositions for me (all the styles I've played at least).

[fenlander]

Got through this the first play through but my main character was a warrior as well. So I could tie up 3 crocs.