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Puzzle #014
So I can't figure out the game's reasoning. The hints insist that row 4's block must be a solo block but I can't find a logical reason for that to be the case as I can find patterns that have it be both a solo and a double. There's no reason it HAS to be solo at this point in the game. At least that I can see.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3227670918
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EDGE Apr 20, 2024 @ 8:57am 
The hint is not suggesting it is a solo block. Instead, it's suggesting one of the block can be crossed.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3227764562

In the screenshot I posted(ignore the hint numbers), I'll try to explain from top to bottom for the 4th row of your puzzle:
1. Current state of your filled block/4th row.
2. According to what you thought, the filled block CAN be solo [1] block, ...
3. ...and it CAN be [2] block too. (filled to the right.)
4. But if the [2] block was filled to the left, three of the [1] blocks won't fit.
5. So we know the filled block will be either [1] or [2], but we know in either case, the block on left of the filled block cannot be filled (have to be crossed).

Hope you can understand my explanation. :)
Last edited by EDGE; Apr 20, 2024 @ 8:59am
Registered Nerd Apr 20, 2024 @ 9:35am 
Uh...as much as I appreciate the help that screenshot is for puzzle #03. The one I'm having trouble with is #014.
EDGE Apr 20, 2024 @ 9:42am 
Originally posted by Registered Nerd:
Uh...as much as I appreciate the help that screenshot is for puzzle #03. The one I'm having trouble with is #014.

To clear the confusion, I just picked a random 10x10 question as a drawing board to explain only the 4th row of your puzzle(#014).
Registered Nerd Apr 20, 2024 @ 10:04am 
So just to clarify my earlier statement. I got frustrated and turned on 'autocorrect mistakes' so I could try and see what the game is thinking. So if I try to make that one block a [2] it corrects me. What I cannot see is the game's logic for why that block has to be a [1]. If I turn blue highlights on, it insists THAT row is the one I need to add something to. And I have yet to find a way to rule anything out.
EDGE Apr 20, 2024 @ 6:45pm 
Originally posted by Registered Nerd:
...So if I try to make that one block a [2] it corrects me. What I cannot see is the game's logic for why that block has to be a [1]. If I turn blue highlights on, it insists THAT row is the one I need to add something to. And I have yet to find a way to rule anything out.

Blue highlight means the row/column can be either filled OR crossed, not just filled only. Crossing is considered as "adding something" as well.

For current state of your puzzle in the screenshot, we can only determine the filled block in 4th row is either [1] or [2], and we'll have to keep solving other area to find out whether it is [1] or [2].
EDGE Apr 20, 2024 @ 7:08pm 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuOgklhYe2w

In the video, you can notice I can only determine whether it's [1] or [2] (in 4th row) until I'm halfway through the puzzle.
Most of the time you have to rely on other filled row/column to solve, not just solely the hint number on the same row/column you are solving.
Last edited by EDGE; Apr 20, 2024 @ 7:12pm
Registered Nerd Apr 20, 2024 @ 7:36pm 
Originally posted by EDGE:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuOgklhYe2w

In the video, you can notice I can only determine whether it's [1] or [2] (in 4th row) until I'm halfway through the puzzle.
Most of the time you have to rely on other filled row/column to solve, not just solely the hint number on the same row/column you are solving.

I appreciate efforts to help, but it's clear my question isn't really going across. Thank you all for wanting to help, I do appreciate it, but I already know everything I've been told in response.
wasdf999 Apr 21, 2024 @ 10:43am 
Could you maybe restate your question? I think I've been stuck on this very same puzzle, and I did manage to figure it out on my own. I explained it in a discord server as follows. Keep in mind, this is talking about the square to the LEFT of the filled in square in row 4, in your screenshot.

Because if the filled in square in this row is:

a 1: it has to be an X
a 2 extending to the right: it has to be an X
a 2 extending to the left: impossible (not enough room for the other 1's in this situation)

This is why the square to the left of the filled in square in row 4 has to be an X, and can never be filled in. This knowledge should allow you to solve the puzzle, as I was able to.
Gravitas Apr 23, 2024 @ 2:39pm 
Okay I was stuck in the same place in the same puzzle. It's because the square in column 7 row 4 is either a single square or the leftmost square in a 2-rectangle. If the 2-rectangle is any further left there isn't enough room for the 3 single squares (with the gaps.)

I'll try to attach my screenshot where I show what I mean. Rows 6 and 7 show the possible right-hand arrangements and to the left are two possible solutions. Row 9 shows that there is only space for at most 2 single squares if the 2-rectangle is any further left.

I hope this helps!

https://steamcommunity.com/id/gravitas17/screenshot/2508017401747002295/

Edit: and if you only put an X in col 6 row 4 then row 4 will stop being blue as you are correct, at that point all we can say is there is an empty cell there.
Last edited by Gravitas; Apr 23, 2024 @ 2:50pm
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