Hardcore drop of FPS in waterfalls and such

[frostyshad]

I have not a new computer machine, two-core Intel Pentium processor, integrated video-card, and so on, but the game is works fine... Until character going into waterfall, then the games nearly stops.

How to fix it?

[kris.aalst]

I think you just answered your own question Check the minimum requirements and the recommended requirements on the Steam store page.

[frostyshad]

Originally posted by kris.aalst:

I think you just answered your own question Check the minimum requirements and the recommended requirements on the Steam store page.

Not totally. You see, Mr. Kris, if the machine cannot normaly launch the video-game, the drop of so-called FPS will be everywhere. At least if the game working mostly on 25 - 30 FPS, it should not drop to 1 - 5 FPS in waterfalls...
Nevermind actually. Maybe I will find something in configuration by mineself.

— I am also curious how to disable disgusting gore in the "Risen 3", it was not such horrible in "Risen"?

[kris.aalst]

No man, if your hardware is sub par, problems may occur hours into a game - any game. It's not an 'either or' situation, as in you can either play or you can't play. One can play a game with sub par hardware and experience no noticeable problems until the game has to render something that does cause problems for the specific hardware setup.

For example, and I'm just saying something here, a waterfall. It's possible that a graphics effect comes into play that the game doesn't have to render where water isn't falling down or where there isn't any water. It's also possible there's an audio effect that plays near waterfalls (you know, the sound of falling water) that the game didn't have to produce until that time.

And a waterfall is just one fictitious example. It could be any of number of things that one encounters hours into a game and that suddenly causes a problem for the hardware and the software it relies on (drivers, OS, ...). There's a reason why some games offer the option to disable the graphical effects of magic spells being cast, for example. For someone with a pc that's only at or slightly above minimum specs, it can make a huge difference in FPS, or even whether or not the game crashes when several magicians are casting spells around the player. And yes, again, it's possible the player didn't experience any problems for many hours, that is until the player arrives in an area where he may encounter lots of spell casters, a situation players don't come across in the previous areas.

[frostyshad]

Originally posted by kris.aalst:

No man, if your hardware is sub par, problems may occur hours into a game - any game. It's not an 'either or' situation, as in you can either play or you can't play. One can play a game with sub par hardware and experience no noticeable problems until the game has to render something that does cause problems for the specific hardware setup.

And, if possible, we can shut down un-optimized visual effects (like waterfalls) in configuration and play happily further. The question was right about it.
I played many video-game on totally outdated for them computer.

[kris.aalst]

I understand but config files never contain every possible visual or audio effect. A lot of them are part of the game engine and such. But hey, good luck, of course! I hope you can find a solution so you can keep playing R3. It's worth the journey. I'm sure you know by now it isn't the best game ever. Hell, it's not even PB's best game ever. But I think it's still worth playing if you're into PB games.

[frostyshad]

Originally posted by kris.aalst:

I understand but config files never contain every possible visual or audio effect. A lot of them are part of the game engine and such. But hey, good luck, of course! :WeAreLuck: I hope you can find a solution so you can keep playing R3. It's worth the journey. I'm sure you know by now it isn't the best game ever. Hell, it's not even PB's best game ever. But I think it's still worth playing if you're into PB games.

Of course it is mostly impossible to change something like visual effect to stop FPS drops, it was obviously actually. But the game is playable even with all those laggs in waterfalls, simply avoid it and enjoy 25-30 FPS, unfortunuately I like to explore map 100% so I mostly visiting by my protagonist every corner.

The jungle is amazing visual look in this video-game. At least to me. I do not know what is mean "PB" games, "Pirahna Bite" games? No — I just hardcore RPG-gamer (well, also playing in some Strategy, Simulators, and in... 18+ video-games), and Pirahnya Bites making some not totally bad RPG, I played "Risen".

[kris.aalst]

Yup 'PB games' = Piranha Bytes games. Gothic 2 is the best one they ever made but it's really rewarding to play the first game first. Risen was the closest to those two games. It had a somewhat smaller scope but was a Gothic game in a time when PB had lost the rights to the Gothic name and content. I enjoyed Risen 2 (only when playing ranged though), Gothic 3 (only when heavily modded though) and Risen 3 (found it way too easy though).

I think both Elex games are on the one side more 'back to basics' (G1 + G2 + R1) and on the other hand more modern than those games. I enjoyed both games very, very much

All in all, there is no PB game I hate, so I consider myself a huge fan of this German studio, although as you can tell I do have my favourites I hope they gain another fan in you in time

[frostyshad]

Originally posted by kris.aalst:

Yup 'PB games' = Piranha Bytes games. Gothic 2 is the best one they ever made but it's really rewarding to play the first game first. Risen was the closest to those two games. It had a somewhat smaller scope but was a Gothic game in a time when PB had lost the rights to the Gothic name and content. I enjoyed Risen 2 (only when playing ranged though), Gothic 3 (only when heavily modded though) and Risen 3 (found it way too easy though).

I think both Elex games are on the one side more 'back to basics' (G1 + G2 + R1) and on the other hand more modern than those games. I enjoyed both games very, very much

All in all, there is no PB game I hate, so I consider myself a huge fan of this German studio, although as you can tell I do have my favourites :elexgrin: I hope they gain another fan in you in time :yazdsmile:

"Gothic 3" was normal RPG without any mods, me played this one from Gothic-series. "Risen 3" from the start is looks to me more like some console-RPG that computer one.
I am learning how to draw (in the hope to achieve some money) — and "Risen 3" is good visual and landscape, maybe I will draw something from it, like jungle. "Risen" was much more primitive in this way, compared to "Risen 3".

[kris.aalst]

Let's agree to disagree on Gothic 3 vanilla

As for Risen 3 (AND Risen 2 by the way) being developed mainly for consoles and ported to pc almost as an afterthought, you're absolutely spot-on!

[frostyshad]

Originally posted by kris.aalst:

Let's agree to disagree on Gothic 3 vanilla :yazdsmile:

As for Risen 3 (AND Risen 2 by the way) being developed mainly for consoles and ported to pc almost as an afterthought, you're absolutely spot-on!

It is not about controls only, it is about things like common pirate can turn into sparrow (well, the bird itself is beautiful designed), tunnel-like locations, buttons-levers-bridges and such.
"Gothic 3" was not bad RPG I finished.

[sounar]

your system is under-powered with a integrated video card and Pentium processor.

[frostyshad]

Originally posted by sounar:

integrated video card

And I have completed many RPG on max difficulty that is have far more minimum requirements that my machine. I also have video-card called "GeForce 7800GS", or something like that, but me no using it long time ago.

[czapla1024]

Originally posted by frostyshad:

And I have completed many RPG on max difficulty

what does the difficulty get to do with running a game? And how were you able to complete them if you cannot stand a bit of blood (believe me, Risen 3 is not particularly graphic) despite the fact that you live in war-ridden country and can get sent into battle in real life at any time?

[frostyshad]

Originally posted by czapla1024:

And how were you able to complete them if you cannot stand a bit of blood (believe me, Risen 3 is not particularly graphic) despite the fact that you live in war-ridden country and can get sent into battle in real life at any time?

Believe to me, Mr. Czapla, those who like gore in video-games, many time are "500" on the real war (those who flee, nearly deserters). Because one thing is the gore in a video-game, the totally other thing to understand the situation you look in a video-game can become with your own body but in the real life. Second — I am from the village, despite I disgust to killing animals, I am doing this everytime I need meat... So I witnessing real-life gore.
About mobilization yeah. I am was actually volunteer long time ago into army, but me was dissgarded due to my poor health despite I very tried. Unfortunuately today me no any volunteer, because the health become even worse, and more important the youngest relative with which me living in my hut — is 75 years old... I cannot left my little farm and relatives and go to war so easy, they will simply be doomed.
About video-games — usually small FPS is mean harder to play, but I tried to say that even with low FPS I am always winning video-games on maximum difficulty.

[czapla1024]

ok, thanks for reply!