2nd beta

[yui8]

Yasuyuki Oda 小田泰之
@snk_oda

We're working on fixing the matchmaking and room search issues, but they likely won’t be resolved during this test. We're exploring the possibility of a second test. We apologize for the inconvenience.

Do you even care at this point?

[Shaalkogan]

What do you mean ? It was a beta phase to test the online, and now they said they took note and are trying to improve it.
It's all good and makes sense.

[yui8]

Originally posted by Shaalkogan:

What do you mean ?

Some people already cancelled their pre-order, and others had their topics deleted, because they dare say something negative about the game.

[Shaalkogan]

There are still negative opinions threads here. So I don't think negative opinions are being the problem. I guess it's more on the form it takes. Maybe some were estimated as being of bad faith, ragebait, unconstructive criticism, trashtalking etc. And for example, some are about the beta not having training mode. It's not required to let a negative atmosphere on the forum about this when it's only about the beta and not the game itself, and as you posted, they will adress lots of the problems happening in the beta.

And it's not because some people canceled their preorder that the majority did, and certainly most buyers will just pay for it on release or after the first reviews of the main game to just be sure the final product is fine (not everyone is faithful enough in companies to preorder, anyway).

[Ara]

Never preorder. Always wait and see.

I like the gameplay a lot but if, shortly after release, matchmaking is still trash, I will make sure to purchase it only to leave a bad review and get a refund.

They better not pull another KoF XV: never fixing matchmaking (or did it take them 2 effin years ?!)

[Breeze]

Originally posted by Ara:

Never preorder. Always wait and see.

I like the gameplay a lot but if, shortly after release, matchmaking is still trash, I will make sure to purchase it only to leave a bad review and get a refund.

They better not pull another KoF XV: never fixing matchmaking (or did it take them 2 effin years ?!)

I'm hype af for this game and I haven't even pre-ordered yet. There's literally zero reason to do so right now unless I felt like chucking cash at SNK.

[Breeze]

Originally posted by yui8:

Originally posted by Shaalkogan:

What do you mean ?

Some people already cancelled their pre-order, and others had their topics deleted, because they dare say something negative about the game.

There's still threads complaining about Mai's boob size what are you talking about

[yui8]

Originally posted by Breeze:

Originally posted by yui8:

Some people already cancelled their pre-order, and others had their topics deleted, because they dare say something negative about the game.

There's still threads complaining about Mai's boob size what are you talking about

https://steamcommunity.com/app/2492040/discussions/0/604149201699363106/

[Breeze]

Originally posted by yui8:

Originally posted by Breeze:

There's still threads complaining about Mai's boob size what are you talking about

https://steamcommunity.com/app/2492040/discussions/0/604149201699363106/

Some guy said so on the internet it must be true.

[Jaq]

Originally posted by yui8:

Do you even care at this point?

Any sane person would. Those are admittedly becoming the minority.

Originally posted by yui8:

Some people already cancelled their pre-order, and others had their topics deleted, because they dare say something negative about the game.

What we have in the gaming world in general and Steam in particular is an epidemic of gamer-karens. People who, increasingly deprived of any other acceptable outlet to vent their frustrations with their lives, take it out on a service industry that isn't allowed to fight back. Except unlike real karens, gamer-karens also need the added safety of online anonymity, making game devs the perfect target. But game devs, particularly ones at smaller companies that do what they do because they have a passion for niche game genres, didn't sign up to be hired butt monkeys for some baby-raging teenager/manchild for $60. Let alone for free in a beta test.

What normal people will do is they'll wait a few hours after the game officially releases and see what the feedback is. If there's anything to complain about, nobody is going to keep it to themselves, they'll tell you. That's how Steam gained its popularity in the first place, easy access to reviews from non-paid shills. What normal, mentally balanced people do not do is go full scorched Earth and take vengeance now over a test build because they might lose the opportunity to rage about it at the official release if the product gets improved, and venting is half the satisfaction for them at this point.

Don't pre-order. That's never been a decision that made any sense with a digital product to begin with. But don't gamer-karen. They've officially acknowledged that they've gotten the message that people are very unhappy with the matchmaking. Continuing to inform them in vindictive and highly aggressive terms what they already said they know is therefore not constructive criticism, it's solely for the complainers' enjoyment. Nobody is owed that, they didn't even pay for anything yet.

[Seabass23]

christ you people don't understand the concept of BETA , its a BETA! BETA BETA BETA, OF course their is going to be issues, hence t h e reason they name IT 'BETA!" beta fixes things, we find bugs to fix problems., canceling your pre order just because the "BETA" WASN'T GREAT IS WILD TO ME

[kiteless 凧無し]

If they have a 2nd beta and the match making is decent I’ll be willing to buy the game at launch

But based on how bad the match making was on this first beta if that carries over to the finished game I won’t be buying

You have to nail the online out the door. In a world with SF6 that has top tier match making and netcode, a fighter with a bad online experience will die very quickly

[diamond booger]

Originally posted by Seabass23:

christ you people don't understand the concept of BETA , its a BETA! BETA BETA BETA, OF course their is going to be issues, hence t h e reason they name IT 'BETA!" beta fixes things, we find bugs to fix problems., canceling your pre order just because the "BETA" WASN'T GREAT IS WILD TO ME

KOF XV had the exact same matchmaking issues fatal fury did and it took them over a year past release to fix it and by then no one wanted to touch the game because it had the stigma of just not working when you press find match. Of course anyone who experienced this ♥♥♥♥ in KOF XV is going to be salty when they experience the same behavior on their newest game

I pre ordered and I didn't cancel, I'm going to play regardless of a rough launch but I totally understand people cancelling a pre-order over that beta, it was terrible and did nothing to make me feel better about my pre order.

[Shoah Kahn]

Yeah... Umm... I think they might need to fix a few more things than just the matching-making... Because if the game ends up playing like it does in the beta, few will be going online to play it anyway 😑

[OyajiBR☕]

I do. I refunded the game after beta 1 because the gameplay didn't catch me, at least not for launch price, but I love the characters (mainly Joe, Marco and Gato) and I'm still following it, hopeful that they make me change my mind. Either way, after Joe gets released I'll buy it on first sale.

[yui8]

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