training mode

[lapine]

can we have a training mode ?

[EnriKO]

why, this is for online test.

[Kat The Wolfheart]

Originally posted by EnriKO:

why, this is for online test.

VF5: REVO had complete training mode available for its open beta so...

[RayofLight]

Supposedly it is not in because it makes it easier and incentivices people to crack it, because the game will be at EWC for 3 years. That is the official stance from what i have heard, so no training mode before the full release.

[JdotSweapA]

Originally posted by EnriKO:

why, this is for online test.

Project L, VF5, even Tekken provided a training mode. dont pretend like its a useless and unheard of feature just cuz this is a beta.

[JdotSweapA]

Originally posted by RayofLight:

Supposedly it is not in because it makes it easier and incentivices people to crack it, because the game will be at EWC for 3 years. That is the official stance from what i have heard, so no training mode before the full release.

which is crazy because that does nothing to stop the game from being cracked at all, as SF6 showed us. can i get a source for that official stance?

[Shoah Kahn]

Originally posted by RayofLight:

Supposedly it is not in because it makes it easier and incentivices people to crack it

That's naïve thinking, and on more than one level. It more resonates poorly with those who are going to buy the game, than it does with those who would never have. Training modes won't affect what hacking take place with the game.

[RayofLight]

Originally posted by Shoah Kahn:

Originally posted by RayofLight:

Supposedly it is not in because it makes it easier and incentivices people to crack it

That's naïve thinking, and on more than one level. It more resonates poorly with those who are going to buy the game, than it does with those who would never have. Training modes won't affect what hacking take place with the game.

Yeah, i also think it is stupid, but that is the reason they have given supposedly, heard it from some FGC pros/comms/streamers.

[RayofLight]

Originally posted by JdotSweapA:

Originally posted by RayofLight:

Supposedly it is not in because it makes it easier and incentivices people to crack it, because the game will be at EWC for 3 years. That is the official stance from what i have heard, so no training mode before the full release.

which is crazy because that does nothing to stop the game from being cracked at all, as SF6 showed us. can i get a source for that official stance?

A lot of FGC pros parroted it, i personally never saw an official statement, hence "supposedly".
Another argument was that it was "just a server test" and that does not need training mode.

Again, i think it is stupid, but i can see corporate being that dumb tbh, thinking it stops people when it does not do anything except detract from new people trying out the game and immediately get their confused butt kicked by oldschool FGC players.

It is also the reason i do not play the beta, i never participate in Betas for fighting games without training mode.

[EnriKO]

Originally posted by RayofLight:

Again, i think it is stupid, but i can see corporate being that dumb tbh, thinking it stops people when it does not do anything except detract from new people trying out the game and immediately get their confused butt kicked by oldschool FGC players.

rank mm is there for that tho? to play with ppl of same lvl

[RayofLight]

Originally posted by EnriKO:

Originally posted by RayofLight:

Again, i think it is stupid, but i can see corporate being that dumb tbh, thinking it stops people when it does not do anything except detract from new people trying out the game and immediately get their confused butt kicked by oldschool FGC players.

rank mm is there for that tho? to play with ppl of same lvl

This would imply a great enough player pool on a niche fighting game during a beta. On a longer timeframe that is the solution, but for a short beta test? Literally everyone is a smurf, except for new people.

A casual gets 1-2 beatings and probably decides "i need to brush up a bit in training", realizes there is no training, no safe environment to get better/test stuff, then uninstalls.

Having a game beta without a training mode to mess around, look up specials, etc. is just plain bad in all ways. Even more so to attract new customers and not just legacy FGC guys who get your product anyways.

And i saw streamers set up rooms with 2 machines and train/lab anyways, so once they are done and go in, casuals also will not have a great time.

Anyways, looking forward to this game, but i personally feel you could not mess up the beta more. Looks solid, netcode looks good, and since i am not a pro competitor i can wait till late April. I just hope this beta did not drive away the customer base too hard, since i want this game to have more than 1 or 2 seasons.

Because, lets face it, the best fighting game is doodoo if only 10 people play it.