Need tips on how to handle party AI

[JRF1414]

I feel like I am doing something REALLY wrong here. I am playing on hard and my party is just constantly dying to every boss mob attack, and they will often just stand in the bad.

Can anyone offer tips on how to improve the AI? I know of the tactics screen and I have tried multiple options. Its getting really annoying at this point.

[Jean]

You can set strategies in battle and I have heard that you need to set the party on defense for harder stuff on Hard. I just tried a strong enemy on the field and got plastered, it was funny as hell.

[JRF1414]

Publicado originalmente por Jean:

You can set strategies in battle and I have heard that you need to set the party on defense for harder stuff on Hard. I just tried a strong enemy on the field and got plastered, it was funny as hell.

Thanks will try this!

[It´sAllAimAssist]

I´m in chapter 4, seems to get easier as you go.
But yes ,probably need to stock up on cup o wishes and set party to one of more defensive options for some fight.
Had a couple of amazing fun fights juggling cups, heals and doing dps.

I jump around controlling the chars and giving commands it´s pretty fun.
I don´t let the AI handle items , magic depends on the char and setup. AI is pretty retarded at times with certain spells.

[Αη Ιnτellecτual Tsiραr]

Publicado originalmente por It´sAllAimAssist:

I´m in chapter 4, seems to get easier as you go.
But yes ,probably need to stock up on cup o wishes and set party to one of more defensive options for some fight.
Had a couple of amazing fun fights juggling cups, heals and doing dps.

I jump around controlling the chars and giving commands it´s pretty fun.
I don´t let the AI handle items , magic depends on the char and setup. AI is pretty retarded at times with certain spells.

I've been sticking with Careena and Morley as my party members. Morley tends to die often, but Careena is very reliable. I have her set to protection paramount and gave her a healing spell with an ability seed. I'm not sure how you have your party set up but I think having one member be more supportive like that helps. She still does good damage with her elemental vessel and casts spells and stuff when not healing. Morley I'm not really sure about. I just kinda try to pick him up when he gets downed

[It´sAllAimAssist]

Publicado originalmente por Αη Ιnτellecτual Tsiραr:

Publicado originalmente por It´sAllAimAssist:

I´m in chapter 4, seems to get easier as you go.
But yes ,probably need to stock up on cup o wishes and set party to one of more defensive options for some fight.
Had a couple of amazing fun fights juggling cups, heals and doing dps.

I jump around controlling the chars and giving commands it´s pretty fun.
I don´t let the AI handle items , magic depends on the char and setup. AI is pretty retarded at times with certain spells.

I've been sticking with Careena and Morley as my party members. Morley tends to die often, but Careena is very reliable. I have her set to protection paramount and gave her a healing spell with an ability seed. I'm not sure how you have your party set up but I think having one member be more supportive like that helps. She still does good damage with her elemental vessel and casts spells and stuff when not healing. Morley I'm not really sure about. I just kinda try to pick him up when he gets downed :tamamo:

I use Careena moon and Palamena fire (doesn´t matter to much I think),careena debuff /buff and heal ,palamena just nuke and melee
Val just slaps stuff and weapon buffs.

[Deathszechuan]

This has always been the struggle with Mana games. Best thing you can do is set them to defensive, or quick swap to them and immediately dash out of danger when you see they're in the thick of things. This is the most difficult thing about hard mode, is keeping your teammates alive. Lol.

Another strat is playing the tank role with your leader, and taunting. this worked in Seiken densetsu 3 with Paladin Doran. But tbh that was only ever relevant in the hardest mode. this game seems a bit harder at a baseline. I'm playing through fully on Hard, and it's a bit rough at times.

[Holyblades]

Wait until chapter 7. I had to switch to normal for a few fights. Even on full defensive they will get one shot over and over.

[Rambit]

sounds pretty good what you guys brought up. when i get on the game again i will make sure to defense mode my party. atm in game im still only an hour in

[SmokingTire]

Publicado originalmente por Travisk1982:

Wait until chapter 7. I had to switch to normal for a few fights. Even on full defensive they will get one shot over and over.

finished it fully on Hard and now doing expert(post-game unlock) only had to use items when i was fighting the nemeses in the ruins as they were 20+ levels higher than me, but using Morley with Special Attack spam with knives (Luna class) and you get fast and easy dmg with criticals, enemies die before they are able to hit you most of the time.

[mpcgannon]

Two things:
-I find the combat animations can overwhelm the screen and I can't tell what's happening.
-I'm a control freak.

I set my ai to be as hands off as possible, allowing only buffs or debuffs. As a result, everyone survives pretty well, I chain my abilities how I want, and I can actually anticipate the fight instead of, kill one in the mob while my party finished the rest?
This is in "hard" mode

[Reptilzz]

Publicado originalmente por SmokingTire:

Publicado originalmente por Travisk1982:

Wait until chapter 7. I had to switch to normal for a few fights. Even on full defensive they will get one shot over and over.

finished it fully on Hard and now doing expert(post-game unlock) only had to use items when i was fighting the nemeses in the ruins as they were 20+ levels higher than me, but using Morley with Special Attack spam with knives (Luna class) and you get fast and easy dmg with criticals, enemies die before they are able to hit you most of the time.

Sound just boring to spam same attack all the time where's the fun in that

[xxpoonbanditxx]

I'm trying to find a way to get Val to fortify his damn shield. Like I've circumventing the ai dumb standing in ♥♥♥♥ problem by using a ranged setup for one and call tanky set up for the other. While I play melee on the third. But all the missed damage and opportunity from the buffs my party could have from vals fortification is driving me nuts and I can't figure out how to set up the strategy page to get him to use his damn fortify. It's maddening.

[NeoVICT]

Publicado originalmente por Αη Ιnτellecτual Tsiραr:

Publicado originalmente por It´sAllAimAssist:

I´m in chapter 4, seems to get easier as you go.
But yes ,probably need to stock up on cup o wishes and set party to one of more defensive options for some fight.
Had a couple of amazing fun fights juggling cups, heals and doing dps.

I jump around controlling the chars and giving commands it´s pretty fun.
I don´t let the AI handle items , magic depends on the char and setup. AI is pretty retarded at times with certain spells.

I've been sticking with Careena and Morley as my party members. Morley tends to die often, but Careena is very reliable. I have her set to protection paramount and gave her a healing spell with an ability seed. I'm not sure how you have your party set up but I think having one member be more supportive like that helps. She still does good damage with her elemental vessel and casts spells and stuff when not healing. Morley I'm not really sure about. I just kinda try to pick him up when he gets downed :tamamo:

I play Morley as my main, with moon vesel, full crit build,, he is a beast

[Doresh]

Publicado originalmente por NeoVICT:

I play Morley as my main, with moon vesel, full crit build,, he is a beast

Yeah, the amount of damage he can dish out is obscene.

[lmaogg]

Whoever balanced the hard difficulty in the studio is whacked. This isn't even hard, this is bottomline stupid when the Ai can't even handle fights. I just started playing 2 days ago on hard, 200hp with enemies firing 1 projectile that does multiple hits of 60 damage and instant gib my teammates.

What were the devs thinking?

Also whoever came up with that long duration freeze debuff deserves a slap