Visions of Mana

Visions of Mana

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Slaythe 29 Thg07, 2024 @ 7:33pm
Shader stutter goes brrrrrrrrrrrrrr. And another Japanese game ruined by stutters.
Do you not test your own game ? How is this acceptable ?

First impression will be HORRIBLE ................

EDIT AS OF 17/08/2024 :

There has been an update that seemingly improves lots of issues, including the shader stutters, by adding a compilation at the start.

Thank you.
Lần sửa cuối bởi Slaythe; 16 Thg08, 2024 @ 3:54pm
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Dzaka 30 Thg07, 2024 @ 10:30am 
hey y'all having stuttering problems.. did you happen to consider turning off that AMD upscaler setting in the graphics options?

cause.. like... that fixed all my problems :sips tea:
Bucherebis 30 Thg07, 2024 @ 10:41am 
Nguyên văn bởi Slaythe:
Nguyên văn bởi Septeries:
I had crazy stuttering and huge dips, was driving me nuts. 12700k / RTX 4080.
Not sure if its the Unreal Engine or my GPU drivers, but it all went away after I restarted my computer, really odd. Its running smoothly now to locked to 120 HZ (120 FPS) , still dips to 98 FPS in menu and 30 FPS locked cutscenes though.

How long had you played before the reboot ?

Because beating the demo once, the second time it was mostly smooth the whole way through, but that's because of how shaders work.

Nguyên văn bởi Monsieur Gayno:
I was hopeful when first booting the game, as it seemed to be doing a shader compilation step, but either it's not very comprehensive or it was doing something else because every time a new effect appeared on screen, there was a jarring drop in fluidity.

Seems like it's broken because some people say they had no stutter (which I believe cause they're way too bad in this game otherwise to not see them).

I did notice the cpu spike when booting the game so it did try to compile shaders. Obviously failed.
The people saying that they don't have any stutter are either lying or have a extremely low standards. There's no such thing as a "magic hardware configuration" that gets rid of shader stuttering. If the shader does not exist, it WILL stutter when compiling it in real time. The only thing that can get rid of the stutters is by precompiling these shaders beforehand, but there's no precompiling in this demo.
Lần sửa cuối bởi Bucherebis; 30 Thg07, 2024 @ 10:43am
EnemyArea 30 Thg07, 2024 @ 10:47am 
Can you ceck if it can be fixed by adding

[/script/engine.renderersettings]
r.CreateShadersOnLoad=1

to the Engine.ini ?
C:\Users\<username>\AppData\Local\VisionsofMana\Saved\Config\WindowsNoEditor

Was found here: https://www.reddit.com/r/OptimizedGaming/comments/13s12vw/unreal_engine_45_universal_stutter_fix/
Lần sửa cuối bởi EnemyArea; 30 Thg07, 2024 @ 10:47am
Bucherebis 30 Thg07, 2024 @ 10:55am 
Nguyên văn bởi EnemyArea:
Can you ceck if it can be fixed by adding[/script/engine.renderersettings]
r.CreateShadersOnLoad=1

to the Engine.ini ?
C:\Users\<username>\AppData\Local\VisionsofMana\Saved\Config\WindowsNoEditor

Was found here: https://www.reddit.com/r/OptimizedGaming/comments/13s12vw/unreal_engine_45_universal_stutter_fix/
Only works on DX11.
Dzaka 30 Thg07, 2024 @ 11:02am 
Nguyên văn bởi Bucherebis:
Nguyên văn bởi Slaythe:

How long had you played before the reboot ?

Because beating the demo once, the second time it was mostly smooth the whole way through, but that's because of how shaders work.



Seems like it's broken because some people say they had no stutter (which I believe cause they're way too bad in this game otherwise to not see them).

I did notice the cpu spike when booting the game so it did try to compile shaders. Obviously failed.
The people saying that they don't have any stutter are either lying or have a extremely low standards. There's no such thing as a "magic hardware configuration" that gets rid of shader stuttering. If the shader does not exist, it WILL stutter when compiling it in real time. The only thing that can get rid of the stutters is by precompiling these shaders beforehand, but there's no precompiling in this demo.

stop putting everything as high as it will go unless you know what it actually does

there's a setting in graphics about an AMD based upscaling thing... turn it off.... do it... turn it the F off...

i was having graphics issues.. they were muddy and stuff. looked horrible. and i futzed with everything and it did nothing till i TURNED THAT OFF!!!

now the game is crisp and pretty with no issues
Alucard 30 Thg07, 2024 @ 11:06am 
It's a stutterfest, period. I have a 4090 with a 7800X3D and while I go all the way to 165fps, it's a stuttering mess. Devs should fix their mess and Unreal give some polish to their awful engine.
patrick68794 30 Thg07, 2024 @ 11:14am 
no stutter for me with a 4090 and 7800X3D
Lần sửa cuối bởi patrick68794; 30 Thg07, 2024 @ 11:14am
Bonehead 30 Thg07, 2024 @ 11:19am 
Nguyên văn bởi Dzaka:
Nguyên văn bởi Bucherebis:
The people saying that they don't have any stutter are either lying or have a extremely low standards. There's no such thing as a "magic hardware configuration" that gets rid of shader stuttering. If the shader does not exist, it WILL stutter when compiling it in real time. The only thing that can get rid of the stutters is by precompiling these shaders beforehand, but there's no precompiling in this demo.

stop putting everything as high as it will go unless you know what it actually does

there's a setting in graphics about an AMD based upscaling thing... turn it off.... do it... turn it the F off...

i was having graphics issues.. they were muddy and stuff. looked horrible. and i futzed with everything and it did nothing till i TURNED THAT OFF!!!

now the game is crisp and pretty with no issues

Everything you wrote has nothing to do with the situation being discussed. Can you try to stay on topic or better yet, not post at all?
PantsuMask 30 Thg07, 2024 @ 11:55am 
Stop playing on a pc with windows7 and outdated gpu's/monitors... low specs. pc aren't much cash at all.. you could spend like 500 bucks and have a high end pc. lmao
TheCombatButler 30 Thg07, 2024 @ 12:36pm 
groundpound attacks make the game drop a lot of frames for me, every other attack is fine. and only in the grassy area. so weird
Slaythe 30 Thg07, 2024 @ 12:44pm 
Nguyên văn bởi PantsuMask:
Stop playing on a pc with windows7 and outdated gpu's/monitors... low specs. pc aren't much cash at all.. you could spend like 500 bucks and have a high end pc. lmao

Our hardware is better than yours.

Now what ?
Dzaka 30 Thg07, 2024 @ 12:49pm 
Nguyên văn bởi Bonehead:
Nguyên văn bởi Dzaka:

stop putting everything as high as it will go unless you know what it actually does

there's a setting in graphics about an AMD based upscaling thing... turn it off.... do it... turn it the F off...

i was having graphics issues.. they were muddy and stuff. looked horrible. and i futzed with everything and it did nothing till i TURNED THAT OFF!!!

now the game is crisp and pretty with no issues

Everything you wrote has nothing to do with the situation being discussed. Can you try to stay on topic or better yet, not post at all?

peop.le: "there's an issue with the game"

me: "there's this setting.. turn it off and it might help"

you: "SHUT UP!!!!!!!!!"

you are what is wrong with toxicity in steam forums. did you even try what i said? or are you so hyped up on "EVERYTHING MUST BE MAXED OUT!!!" that you refuse?

what if what i said fixes the problem and actually makes the game look better?

doesn't work for you.. ok than. worked for me. but there's no reason to be a **** to people trying to help
TheMovieHero 30 Thg07, 2024 @ 12:49pm 
Yeah I'm on a 3080 and getting stutters a lot. Elden ring had frame drops in one part of the DLC for one second (the final boss) but this is stuttering in cutscenese and gameplay a lot. Hopefully this will be fixed in the full release. I had to stop playing the demo as it was giving me a headache. I got it for 20% off on GMG pre-order but I'm considering cancelling.
Armour Khan 30 Thg07, 2024 @ 12:55pm 
On a 4090, and yeah performance is pretty bad, I might have to wait for impressions when the game comes out. I really enjoyed the first game so I'm a bit sad now :(
patrick68794 30 Thg07, 2024 @ 12:58pm 
Nguyên văn bởi Armour Khan:
On a 4090, and yeah performance is pretty bad, I might have to wait for impressions when the game comes out. I really enjoyed the first game so I'm a bit sad now :(
if you have vsync enabled in-game try disabling that. It doesn't work right for me at least.

This is at native 4K with a 4090, I'm averaging over 150fps with basically zero stutter:
https://youtu.be/HR9UqzFlO7Q
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