Your game uses Denuvo

[nateraade]

Alright, I kinda get why a game developer would want to have Denuvo initially to slow pirates from cracking their game, even if I don't agree with Denuvo. The biggest problem comes from keeping Denuvo in your software AFTER it's inevitably cracked, which patently only punishes the honest, paying customers while those that pirate it get it without Denuvo. For what? The damage has already been done.

I just want to bring this to your attention. Too often devs keep Denuvo in their game...don't be that kind of developer.

[Aron]

fun fact most games from enix with denuvo didtn got cracked even not 6 month

[nateraade]

Originally posted by Chouchers:

square enix has been remove denvo form some games around year after release even it they have not been crack. This the only dev do something like this. There some hope for square enix to remove denuvo even if they forgot some their older games.

This is a good point. I wish they were more consistent about it, so it's anyone's guess if this will be one where they remove Denuvo around a year post-release. I tend to to not buy games when they're new, anyway.

[Hakuso]

Squeenx has been doing pretty well recently, the last game they didn't patch was DQ XI, they put the patches (and removed the extra DRM) in the XIS release and told the people who paid them $60 at launch to fork over another $40 to get the fixed game with 2D mode added.

Aside from that rage inspiring rip-off of anyone dumb enough to buy in the first year they're actually turning into a reliable publisher while others like Sega are falling off and Bamco likes to put anti-cheat in everything they sell which is *worse* that Denuvo that at least only affects the software it is actually a part of, and Ubisoft remains a company so bad they make EA look halfway decent by comparison.

[💕Cyril💕]

Trials of Mana had every single drop of DRM removed at some point. You can burn it to a Blu Ray and launch it without Steam even installed. I think the concern over Denuvo is blown out of proportion. They'll almost certainly remove it after a while, they just want to deter crackers for a short time. We can argue all day about how effective it is, truth be told, it is a roadblock. At least for any time at all. And that looks good to investors, & doesn't affect anyone that really wants to play the game. & like said, it will be removed anyway.

Up to everyone's own discretion. I don't personally give a ♥♥♥♥, will be buying it on launch. Steam is a DRM platform inherently anyway. Most games don't work without having to have steam installed and being logged into an account in the first place. If you jackasses were serious about no DRM, you wouldn't use this platform.

[nateraade]

Originally posted by Cyril:

Trials of Mana had every single drop of DRM removed at some point. You can burn it to a Blu Ray and launch it without Steam even installed. I think the concern over Denuvo is blown out of proportion. They'll almost certainly remove it after a while, they just want to deter crackers for a short time. We can argue all day about how effective it is, truth be told, it is a roadblock. At least for any time at all. And that looks good to investors, & doesn't affect anyone that really wants to play the game. & like said, it will be removed anyway.

Up to everyone's own discretion. I don't personally give a ♥♥♥♥, will be buying it on launch. Steam is a DRM platform inherently anyway. Most games don't work without having to have steam installed and being logged into an account in the first place. If you jackasses were serious about no DRM, you wouldn't use this platform.

Sure do wish Luna Nights and Lodoss were on GOG...

Your first paragraph was great and thoughtful Your second paragraph missed the central issue greatly and you decided to call people who resist Denuvo jackasses... What was the point?

The issue is NOT "DRM". EVERYONE knows that Steam is DRM. I love Steam, and support well-implemented and beneficial DRM like it. Another layer of DRM isn't even inherently an issue. Denuvo Bootlickers ignore the fact that it does have overhead, which can be small or large depending on the integration. DRM is fine. Denuvo often is not.

[xethier]

DRM is a sop to investor expectations. It's a plague on performance, a waste of developer time and ultimately only costs everybody involved.

It also doesn't deter piracy in any measurable sense. If someone wants to pay for your game, they will. If they don't, they won't.

[🌌 LetsPlayNintendoITA 🌀]

Originally posted by nateraade:

Originally posted by Cyril:

Trials of Mana had every single drop of DRM removed at some point. You can burn it to a Blu Ray and launch it without Steam even installed. I think the concern over Denuvo is blown out of proportion. They'll almost certainly remove it after a while, they just want to deter crackers for a short time. We can argue all day about how effective it is, truth be told, it is a roadblock. At least for any time at all. And that looks good to investors, & doesn't affect anyone that really wants to play the game. & like said, it will be removed anyway.

Up to everyone's own discretion. I don't personally give a ♥♥♥♥, will be buying it on launch. Steam is a DRM platform inherently anyway. Most games don't work without having to have steam installed and being logged into an account in the first place. If you jackasses were serious about no DRM, you wouldn't use this platform.

Sure do wish Luna Nights and Lodoss were on GOG...

Your first paragraph was great and thoughtful Your second paragraph missed the central issue greatly and you decided to call people who resist Denuvo jackasses... What was the point?

The issue is NOT "DRM". EVERYONE knows that Steam is DRM. I love Steam, and support well-implemented and beneficial DRM like it. Another layer of DRM isn't even inherently an issue. Denuvo Bootlickers ignore the fact that it does have overhead, which can be small or large depending on the integration. DRM is fine. Denuvo often is not.

Steam does nothing as DRM. Denuvo stops them. steam doesn't. that's why they add denuvo.

[Hakuso]

Originally posted by LetsPlayNintendoITA:

Steam does nothing as DRM. Denuvo stops them. steam doesn't. that's why they add denuvo.

Steamworks DRM does exactly what it is intended to, it stops casual piracy, and it does it without causing problems for anyone...

At least not since a decade ago when it was still a bit of a mess, but still better than the competing disc-based DRM like SecuROM.

SecuROM, from DigitalWorks, the same people who went on to make Denuvo.