Why is so easy to lose traction even with medium assist

[zBRIGGHYz]

I don’t know why but every time I try going full throttle even when shortshifting after a turn, is so easy to lose the car also on medium traction control, I play with joypad. This fact is annoying, anyone facing the same situation?

[Maya-Neko]

I rather find it quite hard to loose grip compared to the past 3 games. Obviously assuming, that you've fine tuned the setup to fit your driving style and skill level.

[FaultyJawa]

Yeah, the cars are more sticky now than they've been in awhile. It's possible you're turning too sharp under acceleration, or you're accelerating too early coming out of turns.

[zBRIGGHYz]

But with medium traction control, I think that the car shouldn’t spin in 4th/5th gear.
I’ll try to add deadzone in controller settings

[wTraXX]

I have that problem too, Medium traction control but cant get a corner without spinning. Much harder than the last games.

[Massa.88]

yeah i get wheel spin in 3rd or 4th gear on auto gearbox this was not the case when game was released,they broke it with first patch.
I play with xbox controller

[Maya-Neko]

zBRIGGHYz の投稿を引用：

But with medium traction control, I think that the car shouldn’t spin in 4th/5th gear.
I’ll try to add deadzone in controller settings

If you spin under 4th/5th gear especially, then you're probably bottoming out your car way too early, try to raise the ride height a littlebit.

Medium traction is btw not a magical tool to prevent every spin, it just makes sure that slightly exceeding the grip level of a tyre doesn't spin you (especially designed for controllers compensate for their slight inaccuracy), but if you go excessively over the limit, then it is still supposed to spin.

Massa 88 の投稿を引用：

yeah i get wheel spin in 3rd or 4th gear on auto gearbox this was not the case when game was released,they broke it with first patch.
I play with xbox controller

Well, the handling was bugged at release, so not really what you should expect ot be in the game forever.

[FaultyJawa]

Update on this: Codies/EA is currently investigating Medium TC, and multiple people are reporting this on the forums. So there is definitely an issue going on with Med TC. I would recommend going to Full or No TC in the meantime.

[zBRIGGHYz]

FaultyJawa の投稿を引用：

Update on this: Codies/EA is currently investigating Medium TC, and multiple people are reporting this on the forums. So there is definitely an issue going on with Med TC. I would recommend going to Full or No TC in the meantime.

I know there was something wrong. Too weird that feeling of lose the car on fifth gear, especially on medium/ hot lap fuel mode

[rdM.Eddy1991]

i tried after the latest handling patch with a controller.. tc off seems no problem at all on some tracks.. well theres a hidden traction control anyways on controller even if you turn it off.

[Speed_Dem0n]

Maya-Neko の投稿を引用：

zBRIGGHYz の投稿を引用：

But with medium traction control, I think that the car shouldn’t spin in 4th/5th gear.
I’ll try to add deadzone in controller settings

If you spin under 4th/5th gear especially, then you're probably bottoming out your car way too early, try to raise the ride height a littlebit.

Medium traction is btw not a magical tool to prevent every spin, it just makes sure that slightly exceeding the grip level of a tyre doesn't spin you (especially designed for controllers compensate for their slight inaccuracy), but if you go excessively over the limit, then it is still supposed to spin.

Massa 88 の投稿を引用：

yeah i get wheel spin in 3rd or 4th gear on auto gearbox this was not the case when game was released,they broke it with first patch.
I play with xbox controller

Well, the handling was bugged at release, so not really what you should expect ot be in the game forever.

youre missing the point in medium traction this shouldnt happen its unrealistic even the f1 drivers said the traction in real life dont behave as harshly as in the f1 games so for medium traction to spin out at 4th or 5th gear is a joke f1 2020 mechanics were perfect

[Nats]

This game has more grip than others not less, but it has very poor feedback on tyres losing grip so you cannot feel it, unlike in Automobilista 2 where you can drive on the edge very well.

[Maya-Neko]

Speed_Dem0n の投稿を引用：

youre missing the point in medium traction this shouldnt happen its unrealistic even the f1 drivers said the traction in real life dont behave as harshly as in the f1 games so for medium traction to spin out at 4th or 5th gear is a joke f1 2020 mechanics were perfect

We have these kind of complains every other week in pretty much every game, so i'm always a littlebit reserved over jumping to conclusions and rather give help. This time it seems like there was something (and note, my comment was posted before i knew about thise), but more often than not, there isn't any kind of adjustment being planned and in this kind of case i rather offer help than doing nothing.

And "this shouldn't happen" is simply not true. If a setup is messed up enough, then it should get worse and worse to give guidance towards what is wrong with it. How are you gonna find the optimal settings, if all you see is perfect balance, no matter what you do?

[PAWNSTAR]

Nats の投稿を引用：

This game has more grip than others not less, but it has very poor feedback on tyres losing grip so you cannot feel it, unlike in Automobilista 2 where you can drive on the edge very well.

True im guessing if you played on steering wheel since launch you wouldnt of felt much of a difference and its more grippy than most games. (Not a bad thing)

I have 4 Corner Haptics , Wheels slip on haptics is My only tell tail sign of breaking traction but its super quick which i could imagine would be normal in a F1 car but i cant really say as my haptic system out performs my steering wheel FFB
which is basically what controller users are feeling at the moment with throttle control

Control pad users have been broken in medium Traction settings since the handling update, Theres an Update coming to address a rebalanced to Medium Traction control on control pads On the 8th.
It kinda felt like NO Traction Control on Steering wheel ++ on medium settings
They Obviously tweaked it a bit too much

So i guess hold off doing custom setups to you cars, as its going to change again

[skalijaafar]

PAWNSTAR の投稿を引用：

Nats の投稿を引用：

This game has more grip than others not less, but it has very poor feedback on tyres losing grip so you cannot feel it, unlike in Automobilista 2 where you can drive on the edge very well.

True im guessing if you played on steering wheel since launch you wouldnt of felt much of a difference and its more grippy than most games. (Not a bad thing)

I have 4 Corner Haptics , Wheels slip on haptics is My only tell tail sign of breaking traction but its super quick which i could imagine would be normal in a F1 car but i cant really say as my haptic system out performs my steering wheel FFB
which is basically what controller users are feeling at the moment with throttle control

Control pad users have been broken in medium Traction settings since the handling update, Theres an Update coming to address a rebalanced to Medium Traction control on control pads On the 8th.
It kinda felt like NO Traction Control on Steering wheel ++ on medium settings
They Obviously tweaked it a bit too much

So i guess hold off doing custom setups to you cars, as its going to change again

No, the update is for Steering wheel and control pad.

[PAWNSTAR]

which handling update before or the one incoming... meh i play with TCS OFF anyways so it doesnt bother me unless they Start rebalancing Traction control off we will see when it comes... as they cant keep jumping back and forth with a new title....
who knows its very vague
I only Experience a handling change on control pad medium traction control

Highlights

Rebalanced the Medium Traction Control setting
When driving over kerbs, cars will now be more unsettled, with sausage kerbs in particular having a greater impact on vehicle stability
Fixed an issue in Time Trial where in certain circumstances times set with an F1 car could appear on F2 Leaderboards
Fixed an issue where a specific Specialist Goal could prevent a career save from loading correctly
Pitcrews in Driver Career have received some training so pitstop times have generally been improved

Handling

Having a very high amount of Engine Braking is now less likely to cause the player to lock up their brakes
AI are now less likely to lock up when using a low amount of pressure on their brakes
Tyre pressure adjustments will now have more of an effect on tyre grip and heat