Strange AI, bad AI?

[Cpt_shizo]

Williams Career. Bahrain AI difficulty 106: i get an easy second place. Jeddah AI difficulty 106: Easy Win after breaking DRS. Melbourne AI difficulty 106: Easy Win. Japan AI difficulty 103: Last Lap Lunch Win. China AI difficulty 102: Last Lap Lunch Win. So, i thought to myself, im pretty good at this game somehow. Maybe the handling suits me better. Then i tried Time trial and wanted to see how im compared to Esports drivers and im 3-4 seconds of the pace. What r they doing? Is the AI to bad this year? I think so. Or what is the conclusion here?

[Colfer]

It's not that the AI individually is bad, it's that in a race they all get stuck in 'DRS trains' where because of how powerful the ERS overtake is, they can't get past each other.

So they just end up following each other round with the start of the train and the first DRS car 'battling' and slowing down the whole train. If you're quick anyway and get past the train then it's quite easy to get ahead.

[Sem56]

career modes are just hella broken, its not just the DRS trains they get into

what we are seeing is the poor release from cutting your regular release cycle by 2 - 3 months

and just the usual general EA corner cutting, marketing is far cheaper than paying a developer

[Cpt_shizo]

Originally posted by Colfer:

It's not that the AI individually is bad, it's that in a race they all get stuck in 'DRS trains' where because of how powerful the ERS overtake is, they can't get past each other.

So they just end up following each other round with the start of the train and the first DRS car 'battling' and slowing down the whole train. If you're quick anyway and get past the train then it's quite easy to get ahead.

Yeah this is a big problem too. So i guess there is no dirty Air at all for AI ( Cuz otherwise you couldnt follow a car so close the whole race) and the differences between the cars are to little ( only Verstappen is kinda OP). What do you think?

[gamerPig164]

Originally posted by Colfer:

It's not that the AI individually is bad, it's that in a race they all get stuck in 'DRS trains' where because of how powerful the ERS overtake is, they can't get past each other.

So they just end up following each other round with the start of the train and the first DRS car 'battling' and slowing down the whole train. If you're quick anyway and get past the train then it's quite easy to get ahead.

Ive noticed in mine they don't actually battle all they do is drs trains and don't actually overtake

[DC2Dixon]

From watching Ben's career mode, they are just really slow as well as broken.

[Sem56]

Originally posted by Cpt_shizo:

Originally posted by Colfer:

It's not that the AI individually is bad, it's that in a race they all get stuck in 'DRS trains' where because of how powerful the ERS overtake is, they can't get past each other.

So they just end up following each other round with the start of the train and the first DRS car 'battling' and slowing down the whole train. If you're quick anyway and get past the train then it's quite easy to get ahead.

Yeah this is a big problem too. So i guess there is no dirty Air at all for AI ( Cuz otherwise you couldnt follow a car so close the whole race) and the differences between the cars are to little ( only Verstappen is kinda OP). What do you think?

lol dirty air

dude its an arcade game

[Colfer]

Yeah doesn't look like there's a dirty air effect for the AI. There is for the player.

[Cpt_shizo]

Originally posted by Sem56:

Originally posted by Cpt_shizo:

Yeah this is a big problem too. So i guess there is no dirty Air at all for AI ( Cuz otherwise you couldnt follow a car so close the whole race) and the differences between the cars are to little ( only Verstappen is kinda OP). What do you think?

lol dirty air

dude its an arcade game

Dude, there is dirty Air for the player. So the question is not stupid. Your answer is

[FaultyJawa]

Originally posted by Cpt_shizo:

Originally posted by Sem56:

lol dirty air

dude its an arcade game

Dude, there is dirty Air for the player. So the question is not stupid. Your answer is

No racing game currently on the market calculates every physics point for AI that it does for the player, because it's far too resource-intensive. So, AI do get away with not being affected by some things the player does. If they're meant to be affected by dirty air, I'm sure it'll get patched. But, the AI definitely does not get affected by all of the same things the player does.

An example would be the fact that the AI in F1 games have never been affected by tire carcass temps, even with the setting turned on. They always run at optimal carcass temps.

[DC2Dixon]

Originally posted by FaultyJawa:

Originally posted by Cpt_shizo:

Dude, there is dirty Air for the player. So the question is not stupid. Your answer is

No racing game currently on the market calculates every physics point for AI that it does for the player, because it's far too resource-intensive. So, AI do get away with not being affected by some things the player does. If they're meant to be affected by dirty air, I'm sure it'll get patched. But, the AI definitely does not get affected by all of the same things the player does.

An example would be the fact that the AI in F1 games have never been affected by tire carcass temps, even with the setting turned on. They always run at optimal carcass temps.

I agree with this. No game has AI that use the same rules as we the player do. It's why they can often lap much quicker than us on slicks on a damp track etc.

Have no interest in getting the game yet though as it does seem a buggy mess from watching videos.