ASTRA: Knights of Veda

ASTRA: Knights of Veda

ike-_-1418 Aug 26, 2024 @ 2:39am
New contents is too difficult
Is it just me or are the portraits and Genesis contents too difficult especially the latter
I'm at level 90 for all 5 stars characters(I got them all minus 1)
High level in everything else and the first Genesis boss one shoted all my characters
I really liked the game but now I find it hard to care for new content if I'm not able to enjoy it
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Somnum Aug 26, 2024 @ 12:12pm 
In the case of Genesis is not much of it being difficul, but more like the computer controlled characters are really dumb and a detriment to your team since they are going directly into the boss telegrapht attack and getting insta killed.

It is really hilarious to see a bot archer/mage just run in front of that boss almost like they were trying to melee him amd just stand there. This makes me believe that devs didn't really test that mode enough to notice this problem.

Sadly I don't have a max lvl poison character, nor does my poison units have good gear, so can't really say how fast it goes down solo, but from what I notice the most easy way to deal with that boss seems to be just using a poison character and just let all your other characters get killed since they are useless.
When I tried that boss, I was using a level 80 Atterisee with trash gear and was able to get him like 60 or 70% down on health, but was one shoted at some point so didn't keep trying.

I would say: try to put the best weapon on your poison element unit and just let all your other units go self destroy on the boss, since the bots are useless anyways, At least they can distract him for a few seconds.

Here is some person using Veleno to solo the boss:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWg6usIzyik
ippi130 Aug 26, 2024 @ 4:14pm 
I am exactly the same. I felt it was boring because I couldn't defeat the first enemy.
Cle-tan Aug 27, 2024 @ 3:09am 
portraits aren't hard, if you're struggling with them at all you definitely won't be able to do the ancient golden city.

Craft gems and enchant gear, get some proper relics, max your tunic, get double reduce all damage% on necklace for all characters possibly, get legendary halos for everyone and upgrade them then work towards el cids and lastly on weapons of genesis, this is the order you should follow (increasing difficulty each step)
Somnum Aug 27, 2024 @ 7:52pm 
I decided to try the first boss from the new mode today again using Atterisee. Did enter with an entire team, but since everyone aside from the character I was using was wiped during the first 4 minutes of the combat it was kind of like soloing it.

My Atterise is not OP or anything: Lvl 90 with the Thief set, lvl 32 golden halo, lvl 18 purple el cid, lvl 70 ring and lvl 80 necklace. Weapon was good since I used the one from my Xanthia.
Can't say how hard are the next bosses, but this one actually felt like a joke compared with portrait. As I said before, only problem I see is that the bots AI is really dumb.

Fight start at 1:10 and Atterise gear is at 14:18

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPbREOd0brE
palacentes Aug 27, 2024 @ 8:02pm 
They really are... these guys are getting greedy and want you to spend.

I would suggest cheesy hit and run. Basically your strongest guy will eventually be the last one standing, but you just keep runnning around and planting cheap shots/ signature skill during big openings, then run around again. Its getting me past levels but it takes a lot of time.

Perhaps the ideal way for F2P is to let this one pass, meaning we only clear what we can, then focus on just leveling guys... then maybe 5 months later, we have a more diverse team w maxed guys and can handle it w out cheesy stuff.

I happened to have 2 maxed dark characters, Arin and Death Crown, I didnt have to do anything cheesy or desperate for the light element boss, that one just went down fairly smoothly. Seems like the ideal element gets an unnatural boost to attack and defense, on top of the usual stuff.
Mithrals Sep 5, 2024 @ 11:02am 
Being level 90 means nothing if you don't have good stats, portrait accessories, el cid, halo and weapon of genesis.
Are you saying you cant even clear difficulty stage 1?
If so then you need to go back to farming other content.

Some tips to make stronger dps Knighs:

You can get 3 dps sub stats on relics, you want at the very least 2 dps stats on every piece.
Relic set bonuses are not important, they are ok, but a set bonus is roughly equal to 1 well rolled sub stat. So go for good dps sub stats over set bonus, I see A LOT of people with trash relics just so they can get a set bonus.

The ideal dps relic sub stats looks something like this:
1- attack%
2- crit rate/crit dmg/def pierce
3- flat veda energy/HP%/Defence%
4- crit rate/crit dmg/def pierce

Some dps stat benchmarks to aim for:
-70% crit rate
-200% crit dmg
-70% defence pierce
-40k attack

You probably want 2 defensive stats on your portrait necks for most dps knights.
reduced dmg taken gets better the more you have
resist gets weaker the more you have but better the less you have
dps knights don't want defence sub stat cause base is usually very low

the ideal neck is usually reduce dmg taken + all resist
the ideal ring is most likely reduce def + crit dmg, but any combination of crit rate, attack, crit dmg or reduce defence is very good.

Make sure you do not waste energy leveling accessories with 2 minimum rolled mods, you can check the mod range on all types of equipment in the compendium.
Last edited by Mithrals; Sep 5, 2024 @ 11:19am
Canoue✨ Sep 5, 2024 @ 2:01pm 
everyone is have all 5* characters .. sad me stuck in lvl 50 just daily and claims everyday ..
Dakone Sep 6, 2024 @ 11:54pm 
Originally posted by ike-_-1418:
Is it just me or are the portraits and Genesis contents too difficult especially the latter
I'm at level 90 for all 5 stars characters(I got them all minus 1)
High level in everything else and the first Genesis boss one shoted all my characters
I really liked the game but now I find it hard to care for new content if I'm not able to enjoy it

I agree this game has no real middle ground from level 50-90 and most material/gold is so low that it would take a month to even get the stats up to par on one hero to be able to do portrait or golden city as a f2p. Like you will not have enough gold if you 1. do not buy it out right or 2. do not buy the battle pass which gives you tons of gold.

They are only catering to the whales who already have everything min-maxed which is sad because I actually liked this game...

before anyone says anything I already have 5 level 90 characters and yes they all have already been min-maxed... and yes it took me nearly a month+ of non stop playing this game and I had too buy the battle pass or I would have too wait more than month to get them level 90+ all their gear without the gold, so I was already forced to basically shell out money..
Last edited by Dakone; Sep 6, 2024 @ 11:58pm
Cle-tan Sep 7, 2024 @ 3:27am 
Originally posted by Dakone:
Originally posted by ike-_-1418:
Is it just me or are the portraits and Genesis contents too difficult especially the latter
I'm at level 90 for all 5 stars characters(I got them all minus 1)
High level in everything else and the first Genesis boss one shoted all my characters
I really liked the game but now I find it hard to care for new content if I'm not able to enjoy it

I agree this game has no real middle ground from level 50-90 and most material/gold is so low that it would take a month to even get the stats up to par on one hero to be able to do portrait or golden city as a f2p. Like you will not have enough gold if you 1. do not buy it out right or 2. do not buy the battle pass which gives you tons of gold.

They are only catering to the whales who already have everything min-maxed which is sad because I actually liked this game...

before anyone says anything I already have 5 level 90 characters and yes they all have already been min-maxed... and yes it took me nearly a month+ of non stop playing this game and I had too buy the battle pass or I would have too wait more than month to get them level 90+ all their gear without the gold, so I was already forced to basically shell out money..

that's just a straight up lie, or you're not handling your stamina correctly lmao
With all the stamina they hand out each day for free I could easily get nearly perfect relics for at least 9 characters since launch and all I've bought is the monthly gems pass, the battle pass is a massive scam. I have a 46k atk character and 8 other characters with at least 30k atk and I'm f2p, no gacha weapons only smith 4*, and thats more than enough really for now.

As for ancient golden city, you HAVE to exploit weaknesses, even 4* characters are enough, I soloed ancient golden city stage #1 with capecchi basically, he would take no damage from the boss and his damage was amazing.

IDK what y'all are doing to be struggling so hard, all I do is farm relics with boots, do calydon, do dailies and gold piles up pretty quickly, every couple days I have at least 500k, which is enough to get to level 70-80, if you think you can beat any stage without having at least one dps character of the strong element against the boss that might be why you're having such a hard time too.

PS. Also don't upgrade useless relics you might think are ''decent'' only upgrade the best you can find, upgrading worthless relics is a massive gold sink and yeah, might lead to disaster in managng resources in the long run, this game's rng is much better than mihoyo's games, doesn't take long to get solid relics. upgrading everything you find is huge no, but that's my assumption as to how people might be struggling so hard end game, because I've been guilty of doing this too a long while ago lol
Last edited by Cle-tan; Sep 7, 2024 @ 3:36am
Mithrals Sep 9, 2024 @ 2:15pm 
Originally posted by Cle-tan:
Originally posted by Dakone:

I agree this game has no real middle ground from level 50-90 and most material/gold is so low that it would take a month to even get the stats up to par on one hero to be able to do portrait or golden city as a f2p. Like you will not have enough gold if you 1. do not buy it out right or 2. do not buy the battle pass which gives you tons of gold.

They are only catering to the whales who already have everything min-maxed which is sad because I actually liked this game...

before anyone says anything I already have 5 level 90 characters and yes they all have already been min-maxed... and yes it took me nearly a month+ of non stop playing this game and I had too buy the battle pass or I would have too wait more than month to get them level 90+ all their gear without the gold, so I was already forced to basically shell out money..

that's just a straight up lie, or you're not handling your stamina correctly lmao
With all the stamina they hand out each day for free I could easily get nearly perfect relics for at least 9 characters since launch and all I've bought is the monthly gems pass, the battle pass is a massive scam. I have a 46k atk character and 8 other characters with at least 30k atk and I'm f2p, no gacha weapons only smith 4*, and thats more than enough really for now.

As for ancient golden city, you HAVE to exploit weaknesses, even 4* characters are enough, I soloed ancient golden city stage #1 with capecchi basically, he would take no damage from the boss and his damage was amazing.

IDK what y'all are doing to be struggling so hard, all I do is farm relics with boots, do calydon, do dailies and gold piles up pretty quickly, every couple days I have at least 500k, which is enough to get to level 70-80, if you think you can beat any stage without having at least one dps character of the strong element against the boss that might be why you're having such a hard time too.

PS. Also don't upgrade useless relics you might think are ''decent'' only upgrade the best you can find, upgrading worthless relics is a massive gold sink and yeah, might lead to disaster in managng resources in the long run, this game's rng is much better than mihoyo's games, doesn't take long to get solid relics. upgrading everything you find is huge no, but that's my assumption as to how people might be struggling so hard end game, because I've been guilty of doing this too a long while ago lol

Im the same, played since launch completly f2p.
I can do all content, I auto 11 times at stage 2 and manual the last time at stage 3 for full rewards. I also appreciate that in time i have something to build towards in golden city, gives us a reason to build multiple dps knights of same element for even better rewards.

I really do not understand what the problem is.
Are everyone managing stamina badly? Are they using trash relics and accessories?
Do they only play on auto? Maybe they hyper invested into too few knights? But even so you can solo stage 3 with a good hero if you manual.
Maybe they haven't played since launch then, cause I haven't spend a dime and I can do it. So can my guild mates.

5 heroes at 90 is not great, don't seem like an account that has been playing since launch to me.

Sounds to me like a half assed account that is salty that can't clear end game easy and feel pressured to spend money to do what other accounts can do.

Don't worry about it, in time, if you all keep levelling and gearing up knights you will be able to clear it also. There is no need to whale unless you are impatient.
Dakone Sep 30, 2024 @ 11:03pm 
Originally posted by Mithrals:
Originally posted by Cle-tan:

that's just a straight up lie, or you're not handling your stamina correctly lmao
With all the stamina they hand out each day for free I could easily get nearly perfect relics for at least 9 characters since launch and all I've bought is the monthly gems pass, the battle pass is a massive scam. I have a 46k atk character and 8 other characters with at least 30k atk and I'm f2p, no gacha weapons only smith 4*, and thats more than enough really for now.

As for ancient golden city, you HAVE to exploit weaknesses, even 4* characters are enough, I soloed ancient golden city stage #1 with capecchi basically, he would take no damage from the boss and his damage was amazing.

IDK what y'all are doing to be struggling so hard, all I do is farm relics with boots, do calydon, do dailies and gold piles up pretty quickly, every couple days I have at least 500k, which is enough to get to level 70-80, if you think you can beat any stage without having at least one dps character of the strong element against the boss that might be why you're having such a hard time too.

PS. Also don't upgrade useless relics you might think are ''decent'' only upgrade the best you can find, upgrading worthless relics is a massive gold sink and yeah, might lead to disaster in managng resources in the long run, this game's rng is much better than mihoyo's games, doesn't take long to get solid relics. upgrading everything you find is huge no, but that's my assumption as to how people might be struggling so hard end game, because I've been guilty of doing this too a long while ago lol

Im the same, played since launch completly f2p.
I can do all content, I auto 11 times at stage 2 and manual the last time at stage 3 for full rewards. I also appreciate that in time i have something to build towards in golden city, gives us a reason to build multiple dps knights of same element for even better rewards.

I really do not understand what the problem is.
Are everyone managing stamina badly? Are they using trash relics and accessories?
Do they only play on auto? Maybe they hyper invested into too few knights? But even so you can solo stage 3 with a good hero if you manual.
Maybe they haven't played since launch then, cause I haven't spend a dime and I can do it. So can my guild mates.

5 heroes at 90 is not great, don't seem like an account that has been playing since launch to me.

Sounds to me like a half assed account that is salty that can't clear end game easy and feel pressured to spend money to do what other accounts can do.

Don't worry about it, in time, if you all keep levelling and gearing up knights you will be able to clear it also. There is no need to whale unless you are impatient.

I am at account level 40... there is no way you have more than 6 level 90s man without spending something for stamina. good job shooting yourself in the foot there.

You would have needed nearly 20k stamina for one level 90 character that doens't math well.

Then there is the gold sink on it which makes me believe you even less so.. so unless you willing to do more support rather than just talk trash that would be very helpful.

Unless this is all this community is good for then maybe this game just isn't for people like me. On top of it the game has bleed players down to the 500 mark so i do not believe I am alone in this.
Last edited by Dakone; Sep 30, 2024 @ 11:11pm
Cle-tan Oct 1, 2024 @ 5:07am 
Originally posted by Dakone:
Originally posted by Mithrals:

Im the same, played since launch completly f2p.
I can do all content, I auto 11 times at stage 2 and manual the last time at stage 3 for full rewards. I also appreciate that in time i have something to build towards in golden city, gives us a reason to build multiple dps knights of same element for even better rewards.

I really do not understand what the problem is.
Are everyone managing stamina badly? Are they using trash relics and accessories?
Do they only play on auto? Maybe they hyper invested into too few knights? But even so you can solo stage 3 with a good hero if you manual.
Maybe they haven't played since launch then, cause I haven't spend a dime and I can do it. So can my guild mates.

5 heroes at 90 is not great, don't seem like an account that has been playing since launch to me.

Sounds to me like a half assed account that is salty that can't clear end game easy and feel pressured to spend money to do what other accounts can do.

Don't worry about it, in time, if you all keep levelling and gearing up knights you will be able to clear it also. There is no need to whale unless you are impatient.

I am at account level 40... there is no way you have more than 6 level 90s man without spending something for stamina. good job shooting yourself in the foot there.

You would have needed nearly 20k stamina for one level 90 character that doens't math well.

Then there is the gold sink on it which makes me believe you even less so.. so unless you willing to do more support rather than just talk trash that would be very helpful.

Unless this is all this community is good for then maybe this game just isn't for people like me. On top of it the game has bleed players down to the 500 mark so i do not believe I am alone in this.

LMFAO 20K STAMINA FOR A LEVEL 90??????
I don't think I've ever heard crazier bs before.
You're only level 40, you're barely tackling mid game, YOU havent' played since launch, either that or you've been inconsistent, so it's pretty clear you wouldn't know.
If you cared to read what me and that other person recommended doing you wouldn't be here spreading misinformation, but it's pretty obvious you don't care about the game lel

Just to be clear, you can't expect to clear end game content (portraits and ancient golden city, namely) while you're not even at the end game yet, and the game rewards with more than enough stamina from both natural stamina recovery and freebies every day, not to mention calydon and spider den skips give tons of gold and daily quest skips now make the game incredibly easy to play daily.
Last edited by Cle-tan; Oct 1, 2024 @ 5:11am
Cle-tan Oct 1, 2024 @ 5:23am 
just read another post you've replied to @Dakone, yes, about 20-30k atk is definitely mid game, and very achievable if you do as Mithrals suggested, just a reminder that he indeed tried to help you and anyone who's struggling getting there by giving out some basic advices. of course if you need more indepth help, can't do much if you dont tell us what you actually have atm lol.
Last edited by Cle-tan; Oct 1, 2024 @ 5:27am
Dakone Oct 1, 2024 @ 12:36pm 
Originally posted by Cle-tan:
just read another post you've replied to @Dakone, yes, about 20-30k atk is definitely mid game, and very achievable if you do as Mithrals suggested, just a reminder that he indeed tried to help you and anyone who's struggling getting there by giving out some basic advices. of course if you need more indepth help, can't do much if you dont tell us what you actually have atm lol.

okay sure...

but at the end I think I will just do the.. "if you don't like it don't play it" thing and just move on... thanks anyway.
Grim Purrr~urut Oct 3, 2024 @ 6:16am 
Originally posted by Mithrals:
Some dps stat benchmarks to aim for:
-70% crit rate
-200% crit dmg
-70% defence pierce
-40k attack
I have stats around that (35-37k attack, 70/200+ crits, 30-50% def pierce) on 3 characters (Velena, Aurora, Ellen Farrell). And getting more stats is almost impossible, as farming to level up El Cid and Halo even on one character takes infinite time. Genesis weapons are going very slow as well, and dropping all the time for wrong type of weapon.
And even with those stats I am barely scratching enemies in Distortion Rift - can not kill even a single boss (or I am just unlucky with allies), and it takes forever in Golden City to kill anyone. Portraits can't go more than 11F (maybe I can now, but it takes SO much time, that I just don't try it anymore). Thought, I am playing mainly on phone.

So there must be something else.
Last edited by Grim Purrr~urut; Oct 3, 2024 @ 7:01am
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