ASTRA: Knights of Veda

ASTRA: Knights of Veda

Genesis Apr 2, 2024 @ 7:40am
This game is literal genshin impact clone
to start, i play this game in the mobile version

i have played genshin for roughly a year and drop after inazuma due to the system of the game being ass

this game copy genshin not in the gameplay sense, but rather the system itself that genshin uses.

what do i mean by this?

here's a list of things that is literally kept reminding me that this is genshin impact

the gacha system
they didn't try this one, they just straight up copy genshin gacha system (and this one was already garbage for a good reason)

you have 3 star useless weapon
you have 4 5 star unit and weapon that you mostly 1 get one of them per multi, occasionally 2.
you get 2 pity currency from getting the same unit and pulling to buy more rolls or weapons
1 pity currency allows to buy crystal by with no cap while the other literally caps at 5 for each special crystal
each character has 6 constellation, and those constellation can level your character skill by 3 (wow, coincidence)
also yeah the weapon dupe is the same GI

you have a world system that increase the difficulty to get higher level rewards
each world system levels up and gives you resource either useless one or simply currency for pulling units for leveling up
what is the reward in these high levels? relics
they just straight up use relics in 1 to 1 dimension,
you can't use regular materials to level up, but you have to use multiple relics just to level a relic.
randomized stats relic
level cap 20
each nightmare has a set of relics that is different and its tied to the world level as well.

the currency economy is also similar (i said similar not the same, because veda does give a bit more pulls than GI at least)
cause you can roughly get average 40 pulls + 10 or more pulls from the pity system
you have achievement that give minuscule amount of currency
120 star for daily activities
160 star for 1 pull
you get currency from testing preview gacha units

the only thing i dont recall genshin has any of what veda has
the log in reward that can give you 10 normal crystal and 10 special crystal
the normal gacha pull where you are able to get a free 5 star of your choosing after doing 30 multis, not 30 pulls but multis. (good luck reaching this as a f2p)

i still haven't mention the rates, cause gacha rates in general is garbo and there's isn't much you can do against this.

anyway, this is the whole thing i was able to notice only after 5 hours of playing and i didn't even try. It kept reminding me that this is genshin, do you like it?
its absolute shame cause the art really drew me in, the character design is awesome, but i dont want to deal another gacha especially if its genshin system clone
Last edited by Genesis; Apr 2, 2024 @ 7:44am
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Strannik610 Apr 2, 2024 @ 7:43am 
Genshin didn't invent the gacha game. All this has already happened in many other games and much earlier, especially in Japanese role-playing games (FGO).
Last edited by Strannik610; Apr 2, 2024 @ 7:46am
Genesis Apr 2, 2024 @ 7:48am 
Originally posted by Strannik610:
Genshin didn't invent the gacha game. All this has already happened in many other games and much earlier, especially in Japanese role-playing games.
they didn't invest for sure, however there's a difference between using a gacha as your business model and straight up copying a gacha system from another game to the point is just 1 to 1 comparison. From pity, character and weapon rarity, and to the absolute ass the system is, and genshin gacha was already bad due to bloated character roster (good luck leveling your constellation). So imagine this already with veda in the future.
Last edited by Genesis; Apr 2, 2024 @ 7:48am
Neko San Apr 2, 2024 @ 9:23am 
bro not all is genshin XD
Astra Apr 2, 2024 @ 10:27am 
Originally posted by Neko San:
bro not all is genshin XD
I don't usually post in these threads, however isn't genshin heavily inspired by another game... Not like genshin impact is as original as they want to believe their game is.
William Dyer Apr 2, 2024 @ 11:12am 
A number of those things didn't really originate with GI, but there are many similarities yes. Genshin Impact has been extremely successful, so expect many games to emulate its systems.

I don't think emulating Genshin's gacha system exactly was a very wise idea for what is a beautiful, but destined to be niche gacha game. There's just no way they can create the sort of emotional bond and fanfare mihoyo is able to create around its characters, so the desire to pull isn't as great. But what do I know.
Gacha_Slave Apr 2, 2024 @ 11:22am 
besides the GI UI/gacha system, I wanted a poor mans/gacha version of Dragons Crown and I got it. Until Vanillaware ports all their games to PC (never going to happen tbh), this is the best we got.
BNUYY Apr 2, 2024 @ 11:52am 
Amen brother. Delusional kids still try to defend the game with stupid quote like this

Originally posted by Neko San:
bro not all is genshin XD
when it's clear as day that Astra copied pretty much every system in genshin with a 1:1 scale
Last edited by BNUYY; Apr 2, 2024 @ 11:52am
Sleepy Snarf Apr 2, 2024 @ 12:33pm 
genshin popularized the character and weapon banner that so many gacha's sadly use now. Yes this type was around before gacha, and it wasnt popular, many gacha games that used this system failed because of it, somehow when Genshin did it, it became popular.
Crash Apr 2, 2024 @ 2:48pm 
I bet you this guy thinks the first FPS game he played invented all other FPS games after and even before it.
Shylaar Apr 2, 2024 @ 3:54pm 
What's with people pretending that the game just straight up copying all these different mechanics Genshin has 1:1 doesn't show clear "inspiration" from Genshin specifically? Plus Genshin's convoluted gacha specificities is something it specifically came up with and that's also been copied here in its entirety.
A lot of games are just copying the genshin gacha model and slightly modifying it lately. Better than copying the 300 pull pity from GBF I suppose.
Outsider Apr 2, 2024 @ 5:19pm 
It doesn't have open world, jump button or climbing mechanics.
OP is a clown, but don't give him jester rewards, give them to me instead. :2018bestaward:
Thank you.
Jackal Apr 2, 2024 @ 5:39pm 
the systems are similar but it plays nothing like it. lol
people saying this is like people who claim all f2p games are the same because "uhh its in first person" dumb
Alletto Apr 2, 2024 @ 7:51pm 
Google: Dragon blaze 2014
It's a sequel
Games take inspiration on what is the latest fad, but to say clone is like saying a watermelon is the same as a tomato
Last edited by Alletto; Apr 2, 2024 @ 7:51pm
Genesis Apr 2, 2024 @ 8:07pm 
Originally posted by BNUYY:
Amen brother. Delusional kids still try to defend the game with stupid quote like this

Originally posted by Neko San:
bro not all is genshin XD
when it's clear as day that Astra copied pretty much every system in genshin with a 1:1 scale
That isn't too surprising since most of the comment keep mentioning gameplay, when I was focusing on the system that operates within the business method. To the point it's just simply the numbers as well from the pity stuff, currency and rarity.
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