ASTRA: Knights of Veda

ASTRA: Knights of Veda

A Cat Apr 1, 2024 @ 6:41pm
Remove weapons from gacha at least
Was kinda hyped about the game expecting it to be something similar to Dragon's Crown, given the artstyle and gameplay, but immediately lost almost interest in the game due to it being a gacha.

It concerned me even more when I saw weapon gacha in closed beta tests, which is ALWAYS a bad sign for a gacha game, especially if said weapon's stats are randomized, which I'm not sure if they are.

Bad predatory monetization schemes WILL always outweigh any upsides and good moments in a live service game, especially in a gacha like this.
So if you're not just making a soulless cashgrab mobile game and actually care about your game and its community, you should listen and bring as much Quality of Life to your players as possible. Would be good to learn from other gachas in that case, too:
1. Low pity rate (even 60-70 would be good);
2. No 50/50 on main banner rate-ups;
or
3. A good sparking system that lets you get most characters and ESPECIALLY gear that would be otherwise locked in gacha;
4. Good stable gacha currency income from daily/weekly activities (at least 5-6 pulls weekly or more);
5. If gear stats are RNG, REMOVE THAT, make all gear stats specific, no randomization.

Being mindful of your player experience in this way would deter the global audience you're trying to catch here on steam less, and might even actually draw in more gacha genre fans specifically, which yes, do exist on Global. I personally play Arknights, Reverse 1999, Limbus Company, and even played Genshin and Punishing: Gray Raven for a while, so I do have plenty of experience with the genre and know how BAD it can be, as well as how such games could be a good time sink with interesting story and appealing characters that you actually care about.
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Retro Apr 1, 2024 @ 8:30pm 
this game is destined for failure it's RIDDLED with microtransactions
zMyriad Apr 1, 2024 @ 8:38pm 
this game gave me +10 depression. has a really good foundation ruined by greedy koreans.
Outsider Apr 1, 2024 @ 8:38pm 
You don't expect devs to actually bother with it right
A Cat Apr 2, 2024 @ 3:09am 
Originally posted by Outsider:
You don't expect devs to actually bother with it right
Who knows, R1999 devs also removed Psychubes (equippable items on characters) from gacha and made a separate shop for them on global after closed beta feedback, among some other changes.
Bishop Apr 2, 2024 @ 3:35am 
This honestly looks like one of the greediest gacha on the market rn. Its like they took everything bad from genshin, then cranked it up to 11. Definitely just a cashgrab.

Which is kinda sad because art at least looks promising. But there's zero reason to spend money on the game that will go EoS in the year or less.
Last edited by Bishop; Apr 2, 2024 @ 3:38am
Originally posted by A Cat:
Was kinda hyped about the game expecting it to be something similar to Dragon's Crown, given the artstyle and gameplay, but immediately lost almost interest in the game due to it being a gacha.

It concerned me even more when I saw weapon gacha in closed beta tests, which is ALWAYS a bad sign for a gacha game, especially if said weapon's stats are randomized, which I'm not sure if they are.

Bad predatory monetization schemes WILL always outweigh any upsides and good moments in a live service game, especially in a gacha like this.
So if you're not just making a soulless cashgrab mobile game and actually care about your game and its community, you should listen and bring as much Quality of Life to your players as possible. Would be good to learn from other gachas in that case, too:
1. Low pity rate (even 60-70 would be good);
2. No 50/50 on main banner rate-ups;
or
3. A good sparking system that lets you get most characters and ESPECIALLY gear that would be otherwise locked in gacha;
4. Good stable gacha currency income from daily/weekly activities (at least 5-6 pulls weekly or more);
5. If gear stats are RNG, REMOVE THAT, make all gear stats specific, no randomization.

Being mindful of your player experience in this way would deter the global audience you're trying to catch here on steam less, and might even actually draw in more gacha genre fans specifically, which yes, do exist on Global. I personally play Arknights, Reverse 1999, Limbus Company, and even played Genshin and Punishing: Gray Raven for a while, so I do have plenty of experience with the genre and know how BAD it can be, as well as how such games could be a good time sink with interesting story and appealing characters that you actually care about.
Or maybe just play F2P, enjoy the game and stop moaning like a little b***?
Crash Apr 2, 2024 @ 3:51am 
Anyone complaining here has clearly not played any recent gacha games and it shows.

I barely dabbled about in older gacha games, but the more recent ones which has got me into these games a little more properly has been Genshin (as garbage as it is now), Star Rail, playing some Snowbreak, and dabbling in a few others.

Essentially, you don't need to have the best weapons on these games, that's what I've discovered. When you're pulling for characters, you're bound to get weapons like that, and so far in my 30 pulls I've gained 2 weapons of 4 star rarity, and if my Genshin and Honkai are to be considered, I've beaten both games and gained tons of weapons and 5 star characters being entirely free.

With that being said, stop complaining about how the game works when it's a gacha for christ sake, it's not "destined for failure" because weapons are also in banners when the biggest gacha games do exactly that. When I read some of the reviews I just found it mental, the reviews are people complaining about a gacha game having gacha mechanics, actual clown farmers.
Neiro Apr 2, 2024 @ 4:10am 
Originally posted by Crash:
Anyone complaining here has clearly not played any recent gacha games and it shows.

I barely dabbled about in older gacha games, but the more recent ones which has got me into these games a little more properly has been Genshin (as garbage as it is now), Star Rail, playing some Snowbreak, and dabbling in a few others.

Essentially, you don't need to have the best weapons on these games, that's what I've discovered. When you're pulling for characters, you're bound to get weapons like that, and so far in my 30 pulls I've gained 2 weapons of 4 star rarity, and if my Genshin and Honkai are to be considered, I've beaten both games and gained tons of weapons and 5 star characters being entirely free.

With that being said, stop complaining about how the game works when it's a gacha for christ sake, it's not "destined for failure" because weapons are also in banners when the biggest gacha games do exactly that. When I read some of the reviews I just found it mental, the reviews are people complaining about a gacha game having gacha mechanics, actual clown farmers.
Will they get the same money as Kenshin and Honkai?
A Cat Apr 2, 2024 @ 4:32am 
Originally posted by Lord Commander Dante:
Or maybe just play F2P, enjoy the game and stop moaning like a little b***?

I'm making this post exactly because free to play in a gacha like this without these necessary QoL changes will be a miserable painful experience for you, no need to thank me :zagsnooze:
A Cat Apr 2, 2024 @ 4:33am 
Originally posted by Crash:
Anyone complaining here has clearly not played any recent gacha games and it shows.

I barely dabbled about in older gacha games, but the more recent ones which has got me into these games a little more properly has been Genshin (as garbage as it is now), Star Rail, playing some Snowbreak, and dabbling in a few others.

Essentially, you don't need to have the best weapons on these games, that's what I've discovered. When you're pulling for characters, you're bound to get weapons like that, and so far in my 30 pulls I've gained 2 weapons of 4 star rarity, and if my Genshin and Honkai are to be considered, I've beaten both games and gained tons of weapons and 5 star characters being entirely free.

With that being said, stop complaining about how the game works when it's a gacha for christ sake, it's not "destined for failure" because weapons are also in banners when the biggest gacha games do exactly that. When I read some of the reviews I just found it mental, the reviews are people complaining about a gacha game having gacha mechanics, actual clown farmers.

I'm guessing you literally didn't read the post because I clearly said that I'm playing like 4 different new gachas, some of which literally released last year.
kenchiza Apr 2, 2024 @ 5:32am 
idk why you complaining since you can getting free stars. to i already 4k star and 30 crstal from event and reward. its free. also you only need 10 star to 10 pulls. you dont even need to get legendary weapon. purple and blue weapon is good enough to clear all missons
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Date Posted: Apr 1, 2024 @ 6:41pm
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