Why not just remake FF7 classic with Ever Crisis assets?

[Random]

The assets in Ever Crisis look so good, I don't get why there isn't FF7 classic release with the same assets?

[Angel Lux]

no room for microtransaction in that idea.

But seriously yes it would be cool but SE are dumb and can't business properly

[thunder_bgr]

Fullheartedly agree - i was thinking exactly the same - assets of EC look exactly like what i wanted of FF7 remake visually. Unfortunately SE are inept in making the right calls most of the time hence they would not grab such a golden opportunity to:
1. Please FF7 original fanbase
2. Rake in mad money
3. Invest very little in terms of resources

In another life maybe though..

[mdesaleah]

That idea is too good and normal.

Although with mods, you can overhaul FF7 on Steam, and maybe someone can’t port those assets over themselves.

[Suika Ibuki]

sadly, from what ive noticed recently is gamedevs have lost the will/desire to not be unnecessarily innovative. i remember as a kid we got SIX class megaman games on the NES and all of them played almost identically. new stages and bosses but almost everything else is the same. now 6 games in a single gen was a bit excessive even for the time, but it doesnt happen AT ALL anymore. every time they need to reinvent the wheel instead of leaving things mostly alone and just giving new content or a fresh coat of paint. remakes change too must and remasters change too little. its quite frustrating.

[mdesaleah]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Suika Ibuki:

sadly, from what ive noticed recently is gamedevs have lost the will/desire to not be unnecessarily innovative. i remember as a kid we got SIX class megaman games on the NES and all of them played almost identically. new stages and bosses but almost everything else is the same. now 6 games in a single gen was a bit excessive even for the time, but it doesnt happen AT ALL anymore. every time they need to reinvent the wheel instead of leaving things mostly alone and just giving new content or a fresh coat of paint. remakes change too must and remasters change too little. its quite frustrating.

Remasters depend.

Keeping it the same is actually a big positive most of the time. Just add little mechanics improvements when needed (or have it be optional depending on what it is).

Remakes (and sometimes remasters), too often completely misrepresent what the original tone or look of the original was meant to be. Demons Souls PS5 being a good example of great looking game, but completely misses the mark with adapting the original intentions. For a series where the little details matter, it just makes it look amateurish compared to the PS3 original

[Warrior of Right]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Angel Lux:

no room for microtransaction in that idea.

Tell that to most every recent JRPG that has paid outfits...
(yes those are microtran$actions don't care what they try to call them)

Początkowo opublikowane przez Suika Ibuki:

emember as a kid we got SIX class megaman games on the NES and all of them played almost identically.

That's the problem we always get the two extremes not stuff in the middle...
(all they have to do is expand upon what has already been done but they have a real problem doing that)

[Hard Core Rikki]

Good question, but the answer could be that theyre doing the opposite: EC being built with assets handed out from an OG chibi-style remake under development.

[mdesaleah]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Ninja Vanish:

Początkowo opublikowane przez Angel Lux:

no room for microtransaction in that idea.

Tell that to most every recent JRPG that has paid outfits...
(yes those are microtran$actions don't care what they try to call them)

Początkowo opublikowane przez Suika Ibuki:

emember as a kid we got SIX class megaman games on the NES and all of them played almost identically.

That's the problem we always get the two extremes not stuff in the middle...
(all they have to do is expand upon what has already been done but they have a real problem doing that)

To give Megaman more credit.

While the classic style up to 6 was practically the same the entire time.

They did also have the X series, which felt more like a deviation

So you could choose between more of the same, or something newer

[thunder_bgr]

"Nomura described Ever Crisis as an alternate remake of Final Fantasy VII" - that is the closest to official statement on this topic i managed to find.

Perhaps they have bigger plans for EC - i recall the plan is to include all the FF7 compilation materials including Dirge of Cerberus & Advent Children.

Maybe down the line, when game interest wanes down, they might create an offline version more ln line with FF7 - one can hope.

[Warrior of Right]

Początkowo opublikowane przez mdesaleah:

To give Megaman more credit.
While the classic style up to 6 was practically the same the entire time.
They did also have the X series, which felt more like a deviation

So you could choose between more of the same, or something newer

And MM7 & 8, yes that was my point then we got the excellent MMX trilogy that actually expanded upon what they already had even Megaman and Bass did something different enough.
Then it all started going down hill again with MMZ that punished players for collecting upgrades.. the whole purpose of a Mega Man game.

Same with Squenix they have good ideas,
Ever Crisis was a good idea just horribly executed.

but what do you expect from a company that released one of the best remakes and one of the Worst remakes IN THE SAME MONTH.
Proving they are still capable of making good remake but just choose not to...
(Trials of Mana was the balance between old and new and FF7 repadded was a fetch quest filler spooky ghost png background dumpster fire)

[Lestrad]

Because giving us a proper, unadulterated version of FFVII would make them too much money and acclaim.

[Ronin Gamer]

While I enjoyed Remake for what it was, what I honestly wanted was the traditional combat system done in some manner such as this.
The problem is, aside from Square trying to milk nostalgia because they can't ******* resist and players can't ******* stop, is they seem to be ashamed of what built up their company to be more popular back in the day. They can do it, but usually only as remasters or direct remakes.
I mean one of the main guys of the company when bravely default originally came out was quoted saying something about how they had no belief anyone would be interested in their classic turn based combat anymore......
IT'S WHAT YOUR COMPANY IS KNOWN FOR!!!! I can't fathom how some of these people maintain their positions in companies and don't burn it down through dumb mistakes.
Now a days they just seem ashamed of it, which constantly reminds me how every three to five years a bunch of publishers/devs become convinced a particular genre isn't going to sell anymore, or a series one company owns can't be worked into something that could sell and is better to just rot at the bottom of a waste basket in their company office.

At some point down the line I may continue to play their newer FF7 games if/when they release those on PC because I'm not wasting another 500 dollars on a box that's just going to sit in my house for months on end collecting dust when I'm not going to use it enough to justify it, but I'd still prefer their games kept that turn based fighting style, but this company loves milking nostalgia too much because too many players give in too easily and just throw away money on crap like this, and it does kinda suck.

As someone who many years ago did play into some of this crap with one game, it's always bizarre to see my mistakes and attempt to better myself while also watching a ton of people celebrating outfits on characters for their hard earned money.
Cosmetics don't hurt anything in gaming and are more acceptable than game altering things, yeah sure.

[Solhildr]

I wrote a scathing review about the whole ordeal about this concerning Ever Crisis.

Yes the entire compliation would have done well if they had just did these PS1-style remakes of their games (like actual remakes).

The Gacha Gambling in the Eastern and Western studios is getting out of hand, and its leading to very lazy & greedy developer culture affecting most Triple AAA studios and a few under that.

Gambling that involves slot machine money and Video Games do not mix, and it really needs to be separated for the good of Video Games in general.

I'm not usually talkative on STEAM, and this is like my first discussion post, but Square Enix really got under my skin this time and I'm losing respect for that company (not like they care about respect).

Actually I started to be irritated at them with FFXIV and FFXVI, they're making their games too easy lately (like they don't believe in developing mental skills anymore).

[CaptainLagbeard]

They already have the FF7 remake project going on, that's not going be finished anytime soon... They probably don't want to compete with themselves to the point of having two remakes of it.

[Kingdom Hearts Gamer]

this game is canceer it has covid 19 dosent work