Is MP5 bad?

[It's a Mind Game]

XP+ ammo has pretty bad penetration, so at best it can be used in YBL-1 and starting town, but banshee appears later in the progression, so in practice it is just YBL-1. I claim this, because only YBL-1 is a mostly CQB location, while others are a mix, so you would need 2 weapons, increasing weight and decreasing looting capacity.
LS ammo can only be looted, so for a gun that you spray and pray that sounds pretty bad.

Banshee sells MP5 with internal suppressor for 6k or almost 4k for external variant (with a garbage suppressor), with mags selling for $135 a pop (only 30 capacity). You can also buy a better suppressor for a bargain - only a bit over 3k.

Accuracy of that thing makes it CQB only, but you won't be able to penetrate any armour in the end-game zones, so you need to go for headshots... in CQB.

Now, I understand that not every weapon needs to be equal when it comes to balanace, but can someone explain to me why MP5 is so expensive and the only decent ammo can't be bought? Seems to me like easy tweaks, but here we are, with a new weapon that almost nobody uses at any point of the game.

[Jesus_Guy]

https://weaponsystems.net/system/485-Heckler+%26+Koch+HK+53

Give us this, MP5 replacement. Or the 51

https://www.reddit.com/r/brandonherrara/comments/xotivf/the_hk51b_basically_a_762_nato_mp5/#lightbox

[It's a Mind Game]

Publicado originalmente por Jesus_Guy:

https://weaponsystems.net/system/485-Heckler+%26+Koch+HK+53

Give us this, MP5 replacement. Or the 51

https://www.reddit.com/r/brandonherrara/comments/xotivf/the_hk51b_basically_a_762_nato_mp5/#lightbox

Yeah, this would definitely work. I went to YBL-1 twice with MP5 and XP+ ammo (the only one you can easily get) and I think that I would need to magdump them to the chest until their armour breaks for it to work. So it ended up being headshot-only, which makes this gun pointless. I entered with x300 XP+ and left with 45, because that ammo is so imbalanced for any type of content (not needed for T1, too weak for T2). LS ammo is just too rare.

This 5.56 variant would make this gun actually useful, sometimes.

[Jesus_Guy]

I watched a dude and his buddy raid the airtower at FN.... i followed them in in found a tricked out MP5 and 600 rounds of XP ammo dumped on a corpse with the AK and mags missing. That pretty much sealed it for me.

[It's a Mind Game]

Publicado originalmente por Jesus_Guy:

I watched a dude and his buddy raid the airtower at FN.... i followed them in in found a tricked out MP5 and 600 rounds of XP ammo dumped on a corpse with the AK and mags missing. That pretty much sealed it for me.

Well, that was brave, considering that the MP5 with XP+ ammo is trash already at tier2 locations. I have vendored all of mine, just took lasers and holo from them, since those are the only useful parts of that gun.

[Ibuprofen]

The right question is actually "why is this gun in the game?". Not which ammo could work best.

Because it has no right to be there. H&K only sells large quantities of their SMGs and rifles to goverments. PMCs could get their hands on it. But why should they? There is no background story that could make sense. And balance wise it is completly non-sensical.

In a conflict like the one in game, where literally everyone, his grandmother and his dog are wearing bodyarmor you do not want to main anything with 9x19mm. Atleast they could have decided to go with something that makes more sense, like the countless 9mm SMGs that are crawling around in asia and could be used by the factions on site (rather than the PMCs).

Or proper PDW calibers such as 5,56, .300 BO, 9x39, 4,6x30 (if they want to go the H&K fanboy route), 5,7mm. Plenty of options that would make sense.

[Warmech]

Publicado originalmente por Ibuprofen:

The right question is actually "why is this gun in the game?". Not which ammo could work best.

Because it has no right to be there. H&K only sells large quantities of their SMGs and rifles to goverments. PMCs could get their hands on it. But why should they? There is no background story that could make sense. And balance wise it is completly non-sensical.

In a conflict like the one in game, where literally everyone, his grandmother and his dog are wearing bodyarmor you do not want to main anything with 9x19mm. Atleast they could have decided to go with something that makes more sense, like the countless 9mm SMGs that are crawling around in asia and could be used by the factions on site (rather than the PMCs).

Or proper PDW calibers such as 5,56, .300 BO, 9x39, 4,6x30 (if they want to go the H&K fanboy route), 5,7mm. Plenty of options that would make sense.

The vendor that sells the MP5 is an Interpol agent and the crates you find them in game are from U.N. supplies.

Also I believe the guns that MFG puts into the game are limited to ones they can physically get access to for accurate modeling, real-life handling, etc...