Still having problems with 13900K

[sIcdIe$eL]

Since the update where day and night changes came into play, I have had massive problems with my 13900K, during the helicopter flight 100% CPU utilization so that the frames drop massively, i.e. around 10FPS instead of 120FPS, and also on missions or especially in the camp there are always massive drops in performance despite strong hardware! 13900K-4090-64GB Ram etc
I've really tried everything, even bios updates, lots of different CPU settings, etc. but nothing helps!

[Frost]

Still runs like ass, don't even bother

[Kashra Fall]

It's not going to go anywhere, the FPS drops are from the shaders being tossed around. Look up in the top right hand corner, while it isn't compiling it, they are moving them around because you went into a new grid. It's a wacky system, but helicopters will always spike your CPU if the game remains designed this way.

[Warmech]

Originally posted by sIcdIe$eL:

Since the update where day and night changes came into play, I have had massive problems with my 13900K, during the helicopter flight 100% CPU utilization so that the frames drop massively, i.e. around 10FPS instead of 120FPS, and also on missions or especially in the camp there are always massive drops in performance despite strong hardware! 13900K-4090-64GB Ram etc
I've really tried everything, even bios updates, lots of different CPU settings, etc. but nothing helps!

Can you download something like hwinfo64[www.hwinfo.com] and check your CPU temps, CPU package power, and core clocks while you're on a heli? It sounds like you may be thermal throttling, as Intel CPUs, especially an i9 will use a ton of power during those times.

Also just to make sure, what drive do you have the game installed on? SATA SSD? nvme SSD? HDD?

[packetcreeper]

Originally posted by sIcdIe$eL:

Since the update where day and night changes came into play, I have had massive problems with my 13900K, during the helicopter flight 100% CPU utilization so that the frames drop massively, i.e. around 10FPS instead of 120FPS, and also on missions or especially in the camp there are always massive drops in performance despite strong hardware! 13900K-4090-64GB Ram etc
I've really tried everything, even bios updates, lots of different CPU settings, etc. but nothing helps!

It could be your CPU. I'm sure you've seen the issues with Intel's 13th and 14th gen CPUs, right? Instability issues and voltage problems galore.

JayzTwoCents covered it pretty extensively on his Youtube channel.

Remember kids, AMD is the way.

[Brook]

Originally posted by sIcdIe$eL:

Since the update where day and night changes came into play, I have had massive problems with my 13900K, during the helicopter flight 100% CPU utilization so that the frames drop massively, i.e. around 10FPS instead of 120FPS, and also on missions or especially in the camp there are always massive drops in performance despite strong hardware! 13900K-4090-64GB Ram etc
I've really tried everything, even bios updates, lots of different CPU settings, etc. but nothing helps!

try updating BIOS, 13 and 14th generation had problems

[Sn4pFPS]

unplayable at night whit rain , its worse now , idk why people come back to this game.

[sIcdIe$eL]

Originally posted by Warmech:

Originally posted by sIcdIe$eL:

Since the update where day and night changes came into play, I have had massive problems with my 13900K, during the helicopter flight 100% CPU utilization so that the frames drop massively, i.e. around 10FPS instead of 120FPS, and also on missions or especially in the camp there are always massive drops in performance despite strong hardware! 13900K-4090-64GB Ram etc
I've really tried everything, even bios updates, lots of different CPU settings, etc. but nothing helps!

Can you download something like hwinfo64[www.hwinfo.com] and check your CPU temps, CPU package power, and core clocks while you're on a heli? It sounds like you may be thermal throttling, as Intel CPUs, especially an i9 will use a ton of power during those times.

Also just to make sure, what drive do you have the game installed on? SATA SSD? nvme SSD? HDD?

So I use HWinfo, when the frame rate drops, the utilization of all 32 cores increases to 100% and then the frame rate drops. I understand that because the CPU can't keep up, but it can't be that everything was running well before the first big update and now there's always such a strange CPU load kicking in! Because that makes the whole thing unplayable! And yes, I use a gen4 m.2 SSD! In my opinion, this game still has a problem with the hybrid architecture of the CPU, I thought something would be changed with the next big update, but unfortunately that's not the case!

[sIcdIe$eL]

Originally posted by Brook:

Originally posted by sIcdIe$eL:

Since the update where day and night changes came into play, I have had massive problems with my 13900K, during the helicopter flight 100% CPU utilization so that the frames drop massively, i.e. around 10FPS instead of 120FPS, and also on missions or especially in the camp there are always massive drops in performance despite strong hardware! 13900K-4090-64GB Ram etc
I've really tried everything, even bios updates, lots of different CPU settings, etc. but nothing helps!

try updating BIOS, 13 and 14th generation had problems

I even have 4 different versions! And also various CPU settings!

[Mal0]

If your FPS is dropping massively when your CPU is under high load then it's most likely thermal throttling to not cook itself, make sure you have good enough cooling for such a hot chip.

[Ibuprofen]

Originally posted by sIcdIe$eL:

Since the update where day and night changes came into play, I have had massive problems with my 13900K, during the helicopter flight 100% CPU utilization so that the frames drop massively, i.e. around 10FPS instead of 120FPS, and also on missions or especially in the camp there are always massive drops in performance despite strong hardware! 13900K-4090-64GB Ram etc
I've really tried everything, even bios updates, lots of different CPU settings, etc. but nothing helps!

Are you using the correct Nvidia driver? The latest one is faulty. But if your issues persist you should have a look into the electromigration issues of Intel. Updating your BIOS when it was already too late will not fix existing physical damage on your CPU.

I can tell you by experience that the game runs rock solid since the update. So somewhere in your hardware or software is an issue.

[xenoidoid]

There is a UNREAL / INTEL related Problem for 13900/14900 Processors. If you Machine crash this is the solution. Use the Intel Extreme Tuning Utility. Take down Performance Core Ratio and Efficient Core Ratio. In my case from 55 to 53 and 43 to 41. No crashes anymore!! And no BIOS hack.
My Setup to compare: RTX 4090 GPU 24GB / i9-13900k

[Warmech]

Originally posted by sIcdIe$eL:

Originally posted by Warmech:

Can you download something like hwinfo64[www.hwinfo.com] and check your CPU temps, CPU package power, and core clocks while you're on a heli? It sounds like you may be thermal throttling, as Intel CPUs, especially an i9 will use a ton of power during those times.

Also just to make sure, what drive do you have the game installed on? SATA SSD? nvme SSD? HDD?

So I use HWinfo, when the frame rate drops, the utilization of all 32 cores increases to 100% and then the frame rate drops. I understand that because the CPU can't keep up, but it can't be that everything was running well before the first big update and now there's always such a strange CPU load kicking in! Because that makes the whole thing unplayable! And yes, I use a gen4 m.2 SSD! In my opinion, this game still has a problem with the hybrid architecture of the CPU, I thought something would be changed with the next big update, but unfortunately that's not the case!

Ok, so when you're at 100%, what are your CPU temps? CPU clocks/multiplier for P and E cores? CPU package power? Power limits PL1/PL2?

If your CPU is at 100%, I'm not sure how that equates to an issue with hybrid CPUs if all your e-cores are being fully utilized.

[Ibuprofen]

Originally posted by xenoidoid:

There is a UNREAL / INTEL related Problem for 13900/14900 Processors. If you Machine crash this is the solution. Use the Intel Extreme Tuning Utility. Take down Performance Core Ratio and Efficient Core Ratio. In my case from 55 to 53 and 43 to 41. No crashes anymore!! And no BIOS hack.
My Setup to compare: RTX 4090 GPU 24GB / i9-13900k

It is not UNREAL related. Please do not spread false information. The issue the Intel CPUs are having is that UE5 loves to load shaders extremely fast with a modern performance profile that PROPERLY utilizes the CPU. And that load, that a multitude of other engines and programs cannot create leads to the instability that Intel is to blame for.

AMD had no issues with it, because they not been natively OCing their CPUs like crazy.

Originally posted by Warmech:

If your CPU is at 100%, I'm not sure how that equates to an issue with hybrid CPUs if all your e-cores are being fully utilized.

You are correct. Makes no sense at all. I am also using and been using hybrid CPUs with GZW. No issues at all.
Besides that the game should never utilize the E-Cores. Whatever maxes them out is not the game.

[Onepoint]

I wish I knew why some run well and some don't. I am running a 13900K, 4070 super and 64G of DDR5-6000 running original 55x ratios and the only issue I have so far is having to start the game a couple times before it runs. Once running I have few issues.

Running DLSS no frame gen and quality and run a consistent 80-90fps on the ground, with drops at times over certain areas in the helis down to 50s and 60s. If it gets below that, its time to get out, reboot to clear the memory cache etc.

One thing that's a quirky work around, if I change to FSR and then back to DLSS in game, it brings the frame rate back up sometimes.

[Much_Live]

Hi

Test your CPU with the intel Tool! When failed make a refund and update your bios ;-)


Link 🔗
https://x.com/CPUMonkey/status/1819276167184089150?lang=de