Give me more Submachine guns.

[Twinki [DHT]]

Ak's, M4's are fine weapons and the ammo is always reliable but i hate that i cant even buy the MP5 from traders and that 9mm ammo is so bad, even against AI. Also, even with the introduction of the MP7 i would like to see more submachine platforms and a rework of pistol caliber ammo with AP rounds. AND LET ME BUY THE MP5, im an aesthetic gamer so idc about meta as long as i look cool.

[Heigar Helfist]

The next update from what I hear they are moving the MP5 down a level so you'll be able to get it earlier. Agreed on everything else. I love playing with weapons that I just like the look of. Although I am mainly an AR guy, so I am looking forward to the MCX.

[Fleetwood]

Originally posted by Twinki:

Ak's, M4's are fine weapons and the ammo is always reliable but i hate that i cant even buy the MP5 from traders and that 9mm ammo is so bad, even against AI. Also, even with the introduction of the MP7 i would like to see more submachine platforms and a rework of pistol caliber ammo with AP rounds. AND LET ME BUY THE MP5, im an aesthetic gamer so idc about meta as long as i look cool.

You can buy an MP5 from Banshee. They start at $2k.

[Twinki [DHT]]

You can buy an MP5 from Banshee. They start at $2k.

What level?

[Fleetwood]

Originally posted by Twinki:

You can buy an MP5 from Banshee. They start at $2k.

What level?

I'm not sure. It's been a while since I unlocked any vendors.

[🅱JohnnÆ]

The MP5 is going to be available at much early game in 0.3 update and hopefully not cost at least 2k as 9mm performance is terrible in this game if you want to shoot anything over 50 meter/yard. .45 acp feels fine in this game however, so adding UMP45 or Vector is welcome.

Instead of MP5 since devs are mostly from Czech, adding CZ scorpion EVO 3 A1 seems to be appropriate, I like that gun's aesthetic. Maybe some gun that used in the Vietnam war era like ppsh, MAT-49, M3A1, MAC-10 and UZI is also fitting.

The game should add more PDW, which is also SMG but better. Like P90, P50, AR-57 or SR-2.

Although adding more variety to gun is fine, 9mm don't have the stopping power that is worth using in the late game. I have thought of the idea instead of giving starter town goons using SKS or AKs with soft point ammo which has no penetration power but is devastating hitting in any part of the torso, the goons should use more pistol caliber weapon, as very likely the police station is where they got their guns. Also rework of ai npc's health system can help, this game's goons can eat more 9mm than the Half-Life's alien grunts which are meant to be a disposable bionic super soldier in interdimensional war.

[stopbus]

i think bef adding variety, they need to at least re-balance smg to be more viable.

in EFT, the smg's high firerate chew thru armour quickly and have sufficient flesh dmg for overall decent time to kill in cqb

[IronVanHlamm]

MP5 in this game is garbage...sadly but tru.You can find this gun at UNRL camp near Water Tower in "starter" village...if you lucky and have the unrl storage key.

[SchimmelCultuur]

Don't even need the UNRL storage key to find MP5s in the starter town.

Fortified villa on the outer West side of the town usually has one in the lootbox on the ground floor. Also the commander office in Market place usually has one, for this one you don't even need they key, go out onto the roof on the south side & go around the back of the building and get in that way.

[IronVanHlamm]

Originally posted by SchimmelCultuur:

Don't even need the UNRL storage key to find MP5s in the starter town.

Fortified villa on the outer West side of the town usually has one in the lootbox on the ground floor. Also the commander office in Market place usually has one, for this one you don't even need they key, go out onto the roof on the south side & go around the back of the building and get in that way.

im talking about the "easy" way...not get killed more then 10 times at market or villa.

[SchimmelCultuur]

Originally posted by IronVanHlamm:

Originally posted by SchimmelCultuur:

Don't even need the UNRL storage key to find MP5s in the starter town.

Fortified villa on the outer West side of the town usually has one in the lootbox on the ground floor. Also the commander office in Market place usually has one, for this one you don't even need they key, go out onto the roof on the south side & go around the back of the building and get in that way.

im talking about the "easy" way...not get killed more then 10 times at market or villa.

There's a corner piece on the backside wall of the Fortified Villa that allows you to climb over it and into the backyard. Via that you are no longer in the open like you are on the street and from that main entrance the enemy advantage of higher ground and foliage as cover disappears. I've found this way in and out to be quick & easy with 4 kills in CQB style and the lootboxes are yours.

Market is another story, can be done if you don't rush it and don't let yourself get cornered. I like the challenge but different tastes for different people.