Shotguns still take 4+ Slugs to face to kill hat wearing enemy...

[DASH14]

I could of sworn they reworked pistols and shotguns. Am I wrong? Is it still in the works?

[Tiebarious]

Originally posted by DASH14:

I could of sworn they reworked pistols and shotguns. Am I wrong? Is it still in the works?

i run the 870 all the time and black slugs are a 1 tap

[DASH14]

Originally posted by Tiebarious:

Originally posted by DASH14:

I could of sworn they reworked pistols and shotguns. Am I wrong? Is it still in the works?

i run the 870 all the time and black slugs are a 1 tap

I have been using it today same ammo and it is 3-4. Is it possible it is grazing them since the slugs don't spread? If that's the case I guess it makes sense. I'll give it more testing tonight.

[♥ Beepy ♥]

Originally posted by DASH14:

Originally posted by Tiebarious:

i run the 870 all the time and black slugs are a 1 tap

I have been using it today same ammo and it is 3-4. Is it possible it is grazing them since the slugs don't spread? If that's the case I guess it makes sense. I'll give it more testing tonight.

Sounds more like desync with the servers honestly.

[DASH14]

Hmmm I didn't think about that one.

[♥ Beepy ♥]

Originally posted by DASH14:

Hmmm I didn't think about that one.

We've noticed it when on some of the more populated servers. Things will be going smooth then just some random jank outta nowhere with a dude that got shot about 15x in the face and didn't really react. On the ones we shot on population-dead servers, everyone drops the first time you shoot them in the head.

[Ibuprofen]

Originally posted by DASH14:

I could of sworn they reworked pistols and shotguns. Am I wrong? Is it still in the works?

It was said in the last videolog of MFG (as far as I remember) that the game currently can not "enlarge" or make wound canals worse. So if you once hit a certain spot of the enemy and hit it twice in the same spot a second wound canal will not be created, or the one existing enlarged, which results in no damage at all.

They know about the issue and this should be fixed with the next major update.

[Black Magix]

shotguns are....not in a good spot honestly. Especially given that there isn't really any AP rounds for shotguns atm. In the first area, slugs can decimate enemies but at soon as they start putting on armor, that goes out the window as you can't pen the armor anymore.

Pistols were indeed reworked but to be clear - pistols were essentially worthless at launch. You could put a full magazine of 9 mil rounds into an AI's face and they would simply smile, and shrug it off while blasting you with an AK. So yes they were reworked but they aren't intended to be a go to primary weapon.

[Fleetwood]

Originally posted by Black Magix:

shotguns are....not in a good spot honestly. Especially given that there isn't really any AP rounds for shotguns atm. In the first area, slugs can decimate enemies but at soon as they start putting on armor, that goes out the window as you can't pen the armor anymore.

That's kinda the way it should be. Armor piercing slugs are a rare exotic specialty ammo. Generally speaking, if defeating armor is a shooter's goal, small diameter fast moving rounds should be preferred over large diameter slow moving rounds.

[DASH14]

Originally posted by Fleetwood:

Originally posted by Black Magix:

shotguns are....not in a good spot honestly. Especially given that there isn't really any AP rounds for shotguns atm. In the first area, slugs can decimate enemies but at soon as they start putting on armor, that goes out the window as you can't pen the armor anymore.

That's kinda the way it should be. Armor piercing slugs are a rare exotic specialty ammo. Generally speaking, if defeating armor is a shooter's goal, small diameter fast moving rounds should be preferred over large diameter slow moving rounds.

I vehemently disagree. A basic slug is neither exotic or weak enough to need multiple shots to the face. They are accurate far reaching compared to buck and will even typically drop with even a half grazing headshot. The kinetic energy of a solid piece of metal that size does devastating damage to a human body. Anyone who tells you a shot gun firing a slug takes multiple shots to kill when fired into the head has either no knowledge of the topic and is relying on movies or just is spouting bs.

[Heigar Helfist]

I use a shotty and black ammo when I do a corpse run and even against Fort Narith troops you can drop them from a surprising distance. I used to hate shotguns but proper ammo can be effective.