SKS accuracy

[Synne]

I'm new to the game and I'm just wondering is the SKS stuck around 3 MOA?

I'm currently only tier 2 for gunny and artisan but haven't really seen much to increase the accuracy for the SKS. I wanted to try to make it like a DMR/Sniper type of gun but so far the M4 is the only gun with enough option to do so.

[Pindie]

I think it goes down to 2.5 with suppressor, you need a muzzle adapter. There are guides on youtube.
I do not think SKS is a marksman's rifle, I think SKS is there for low recoil alternative to unmodded AKM.

[Synne]

That’s a shame. There’s about 4 guns and the snipers are all bolt action while the only marksman style rifle I can make is the extended barrel m4.

[Pindie]

There is rare AK308. Found in villa garage at MS and possibly elsewhere. It's also a reward for one quest.

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Originally posted by Pindie:

I think it goes down to 2.5 with suppressor, you need a muzzle adapter. There are guides on youtube.
I do not think SKS is a marksman's rifle, I think SKS is there for low recoil alternative to unmodded AKM.

SKS is a marksman rifle, and it fires the same ammunition as an AKM so kick is the same, which means the recoil will be about the same if not exactly.

The SKS is broken if we are using real world standards.

[Covert Cactus]

Go to Ban Pa and search the crates in one of the houses out in the water, they often have M700 in them. AK-308 is great but it's a bit rare. The SKS isn't really meant to be a DMR type rifle and I don't think you can even put a magnified optic on it, at least I wasn't able to. Eventually you will be able to unlock the Arch Angel frame for the Mosin-Nagant and build a sniper with more commonly available 7.62x54R ammo. Right now the game is just lacking in weapons in general. I think each major update is supposed to add new weapons so this will get better in time.

Originally posted by Pindie:

There is rare AK308. Found in villa garage at MS and possibly elsewhere. It's also a reward for one quest.

It's also found in FN HQ storage room on rare occasions.

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Originally posted by Covert Cactus:

Go to Ban Pa and search the crates in one of the houses out in the water, they often have M700 in them. AK-308 is great but it's a bit rare. The SKS isn't really meant to be a DMR type rifle and I don't think you can even put a magnified optic on it, at least I wasn't able to. Eventually you will be able to unlock the Arch Angel frame for the Mosin-Nagant and build a sniper with more commonly available 7.62x54R ammo. Right now the game is just lacking in weapons in general. I think each major update is supposed to add new weapons so this will get better in time.

Originally posted by Pindie:

There is rare AK308. Found in villa garage at MS and possibly elsewhere. It's also a reward for one quest.

It's also found in FN HQ storage room on rare occasions.

The SKS is really not suited for any other role than as a DMR. At one point, Soviet Russia considered adopting an SKS variant as their primary DMR.

[🅱JohnnÆ]

Not only M4 is with enough option but also the best you can get (if you can afford). M4 series with barrel longer than even 14 inch dwarf (lesser than 1.5 MOA) every option you can think off. Maybe Mosin and M700 can be competitive if the devs decide to implement “release left mouse button after firing to cycle the bolt/ manually cycle bolt” option but at the point of Gunny level 2 in game you can pretty much only use bolt action to bully tier 2 enemies. M80 don’t do anything on the III+ ratnik armor which is quite common on LAF soldier.

3.2 MOA is quite acceptable for a rifle sitting in some random South East Asia warehouse at least after the Vietnam war, it is quite decent if you intend to shoot your enemy not beyond 150 meter/ yards. However, you might as well use AKM with the PBS silencer since the accuracy isn’t too far off. (3.5 ish) This “poor man’s Vintorez” build has stayed with me quite a while after I leave starter town till I get M4 with silencer. Though using US round which is common on tier 2 goons the gun needs to zero if you want to hit any enemies beyond 200 meter as the drop is crazy, and US isn’t guaranteed penetrate on IIIA armor.

Though, I could use a SKS with stripper clip.

[Covert Cactus]

Originally posted by Ghannon:

Originally posted by Covert Cactus:

Go to Ban Pa and search the crates in one of the houses out in the water, they often have M700 in them. AK-308 is great but it's a bit rare. The SKS isn't really meant to be a DMR type rifle and I don't think you can even put a magnified optic on it, at least I wasn't able to. Eventually you will be able to unlock the Arch Angel frame for the Mosin-Nagant and build a sniper with more commonly available 7.62x54R ammo. Right now the game is just lacking in weapons in general. I think each major update is supposed to add new weapons so this will get better in time.


It's also found in FN HQ storage room on rare occasions.

The SKS is really not suited for any other role than as a DMR. At one point, Soviet Russia considered adopting an SKS variant as their primary DMR.

The SKS was designed to be a regular infantry rifle. That's why it was originally built with a bayonet attached. The SKS was never accurate enough to become a DMR and the Russians developed the SVD to fill the role.

[Ibuprofen]

Originally posted by Covert Cactus:

Originally posted by Ghannon:

The SKS is really not suited for any other role than as a DMR. At one point, Soviet Russia considered adopting an SKS variant as their primary DMR.

The SKS was designed to be a regular infantry rifle. That's why it was originally built with a bayonet attached. The SKS was never accurate enough to become a DMR and the Russians developed the SVD to fill the role.

Exactly. And there will be no legit source of russians considering it to use it as a DMR. 7,62x39 sucks on longer ranges. And most plattforms that do under 4 MOA are considered to be extremly accurate for the 7,62x39mm round. In this case a leftover vietnam war SKS shouldnt even have something under 4 MOA.

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Originally posted by Ibuprofen:

Originally posted by Covert Cactus:

The SKS was designed to be a regular infantry rifle. That's why it was originally built with a bayonet attached. The SKS was never accurate enough to become a DMR and the Russians developed the SVD to fill the role.

Exactly. And there will be no legit source of russians considering it to use it as a DMR. 7,62x39 sucks on longer ranges. And most plattforms that do under 4 MOA are considered to be extremly accurate for the 7,62x39mm round. In this case a leftover vietnam war SKS shouldnt even have something under 4 MOA.

The SKS in real life has great accuracy, which was a major selling factor for China when they made it their standard issue rifle. Many poor Soviet allies used it as their standard issue rifle, most notably Romania.

The 7.62x39's lack of accuracy argument is largely western propaganda, a fantasy that is not supported by ballistic testing. There can be environmental performance differences between the variants of 7.62x39, and even quality differences between brands, but overall, it is a highly accurate round with significantly greater ranger and armor penetration than the standard 5.56 of the American military, which is now being phased out.

The SKS has been shown to reliably and accurately hit targets as far as 400 meters, with iron sights that can be zeroed out to 1,000 meters, which is not practical only because of the limitations of human eye sight.

The recoil of an SKS is also very easy to control, it is just a really well produced refile with a notoriously cheap price tag, at least at the time. Now days, authentic SKS rifles are often incredibly expensive, ranging from 600 to 4,000 depending on condition, authenticity, production date, and nation of origin.

[🅱JohnnÆ]

Not want to reply to potential troll but I want to point out there are more AK-12 series gun in Lamang than there are in Donbass right now, let that information help you to decide which part of the game is realistic.

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Originally posted by 🅱JohnnÆ:

Not want to reply to potential troll but I want to point out there are more AK-12 series gun in Lamang than there are in Donbass right now, let that information help you to decide which part of the game is realistic.

That is not true, nor would it prove that the 7.62x39 round has terrible accuracy if it was.

The only troll here is you.

[Covert Cactus]

Originally posted by Ghannon:

Originally posted by Ibuprofen:

Exactly. And there will be no legit source of russians considering it to use it as a DMR. 7,62x39 sucks on longer ranges. And most plattforms that do under 4 MOA are considered to be extremly accurate for the 7,62x39mm round. In this case a leftover vietnam war SKS shouldnt even have something under 4 MOA.

The SKS in real life has great accuracy, which was a major selling factor for China when they made it their standard issue rifle. Many poor Soviet allies used it as their standard issue rifle, most notably Romania.

The 7.62x39's lack of accuracy argument is largely western propaganda, a fantasy that is not supported by ballistic testing. There can be environmental performance differences between the variants of 7.62x39, and even quality differences between brands, but overall, it is a highly accurate round with significantly greater ranger and armor penetration than the standard 5.56 of the American military, which is now being phased out.

The SKS has been shown to reliably and accurately hit targets as far as 400 meters, with iron sights that can be zeroed out to 1,000 meters, which is not practical only because of the limitations of human eye sight.

The recoil of an SKS is also very easy to control, it is just a really well produced refile with a notoriously cheap price tag, at least at the time. Now days, authentic SKS rifles are often incredibly expensive, ranging from 600 to 4,000 depending on condition, authenticity, production date, and nation of origin.

A lot of rifles back in those days had 1000 meter settings for iron sights. It was basically a last ditch effort for soldiers to put rounds on target from far away. Hitting an enemy at that distance came down to luck and volume of fire. A lot of military doctrine from back then is out of date because it was shown to be ineffective. I don't know why you insist that the SKS should be a DMR type weapon when it's not and never had the potential to be. The Soviets made the SVD in 7.62x54R because x39 couldn't match the range of 7.62 NATO and the SKS just didn't have the mechanical accuracy to fulfill that role. I'm guessing you're hung up on it being semi auto and therefore it must be a DMR but it's just not that kind of rifle. There are reasons why it fell out of service relatively quickly.

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Originally posted by Covert Cactus:

Originally posted by Ghannon:

The SKS in real life has great accuracy, which was a major selling factor for China when they made it their standard issue rifle. Many poor Soviet allies used it as their standard issue rifle, most notably Romania.

The 7.62x39's lack of accuracy argument is largely western propaganda, a fantasy that is not supported by ballistic testing. There can be environmental performance differences between the variants of 7.62x39, and even quality differences between brands, but overall, it is a highly accurate round with significantly greater ranger and armor penetration than the standard 5.56 of the American military, which is now being phased out.

The SKS has been shown to reliably and accurately hit targets as far as 400 meters, with iron sights that can be zeroed out to 1,000 meters, which is not practical only because of the limitations of human eye sight.

The recoil of an SKS is also very easy to control, it is just a really well produced refile with a notoriously cheap price tag, at least at the time. Now days, authentic SKS rifles are often incredibly expensive, ranging from 600 to 4,000 depending on condition, authenticity, production date, and nation of origin.

A lot of rifles back in those days had 1000 meter settings for iron sights. It was basically a last ditch effort for soldiers to put rounds on target from far away. Hitting an enemy at that distance came down to luck and volume of fire. A lot of military doctrine from back then is out of date because it was shown to be ineffective. I don't know why you insist that the SKS should be a DMR type weapon when it's not and never had the potential to be. The Soviets made the SVD in 7.62x54R because x39 couldn't match the range of 7.62 NATO and the SKS just didn't have the mechanical accuracy to fulfill that role. I'm guessing you're hung up on it being semi auto and therefore it must be a DMR but it's just not that kind of rifle. There are reasons why it fell out of service relatively quickly.

You need to take your head out of your ass. I never said it was used as a DMR.

I insist because the only reason it was never used as a DMR is because it was designed to be a temporary solution, a quick fix, until more promising candidates were invented, and the fact that Russia seriously considered using it as a DMR. The SKS did not become one of the most mass produced rifles in history just for the laughs.

7.62x39 and 7.62x51 are not the same round, so obviously they perform differently, duh. That said, the claim that 7.62 is less accurate than 5.56 for its intended purpose is a persistent lie told by die hard AR fanboys.

Examples of DMRs chambered in 7.62x39:
M10X-DMR
Tabuk Sniper Rifle
Norinco Type 81 SR
CMMG MK47 Resolute

It is important to keep in mind that a DMR is not a sniper, they serve different roles.

[🅱JohnnÆ]

Originally posted by Ghannon:

Originally posted by 🅱JohnnÆ:

Not want to reply to potential troll but I want to point out there are more AK-12 series gun in Lamang than there are in Donbass right now, let that information help you to decide which part of the game is realistic.

That is not true, nor would it prove that the 7.62x39 round has terrible accuracy if it was.

The only troll here is you.

Well you're the one who claim SKS is inaccurate as Western propaganda and without any citation. I'm just saying LAF soldier all using AK-12 and derivative. I've never seen a single LAF soldier using SKS.

So I guess you're wrong again, and I didn't even reply to you, not sure why people saying SKS is inaccurate rent free in your head but feel free proving us wrong about how soviet service rifle with bayonet as default is far more accurate anything modern firearms manufacturers
with advance machine can put on the counter, or whatever you like to claim as I don't bother to read all your tex

Like for example, your own SKS shooting video at 400 meter, and I'll go easy on you for the Huey size target at 1000 meter. Be sure you also have an AR-15 to shoot so we will know the difference.