Need help with getting game to run above or at 60fps (4070 +i9)

[Prince Rohan]

I have been struggling to get over 60fps with this game ever since the night ops update. Prior to this update, i could get around 60-80fps with dlss quality at 2K, regardless of the graphics settings as they didn't affect performance that much. Now i'm getting terrible performance with the same settings, 40-50 with drops to 25-30 in certain areas and while aiming down sights. What i do now is use frame gen, but because the fps is so erratic, it doesn't play well and at times i have to turn it off and on again because it will continuosly stutter or input lag will suddenly be really bad.

My PC:

RTX 4070 (12GB VRAM)

i9-11900KF @ 3.50GHz

32GB Ram

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I heard someone on steam with similar specs say it's their cpu that is bottlenecking their gpu. I'm not the best at this kind of stuff so i don't really have any input and would like to know if anyone here has any guidance on how i can get this game to run above 60fps because it feels like there is no way that it can't with my setup.

Here is monitoring data i picked up from msia/rtss:

GPU: 43%
CPU: 57 degrees celsius
CPU1: 98%
CPU2: 95%
CPU3: 98%
D3D12: 43fps

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The cpu usage is not like that all the time, it jumps from high 90s and between low 60s. When going low the gpu usage increases. Is the only solution really to upgrade my cpu? I just got this pc a few months ago :((

[Warmech]

I have a test system with a 3700X, which should be bit below gaming performance of your 11900k and that CPU can sustain 60-80fps.

Without going into anything further, did you cut off your RTSS results or something so it's only showing 3 CPUs? A fully loaded 11900k running 57C seems abnormally... low. Is there something weird going on where you disabled some cores or something?

[Prince Rohan]

Originally posted by Warmech:

I have a test system with a 3700X, which should be bit below gaming performance of your 11900k and that CPU can sustain 60-80fps.

Without going into anything further, did you cut off your RTSS results or something so it's only showing 3 CPUs? A fully loaded 11900k running 57C seems abnormally... low. Is there something weird going on where you disabled some cores or something?

No i just didn't select it to show on my OSD. I changed it to show all my cores now:

GPU: 83%
CPU1: 66% 54C
CPU2: 60% 54C
CPU3 63% 56C
CPU4 59% 56C
CPU5 61% 54C
CPU6 60% 54C
CPU7 60% 54C
CPU8 59% 58C
CPU9 82% 55C
CPU10 70% 55C
CPU11 83% 59C
CPU12 75% 59C
CPU13 68% 53C
CPU14 57% 53C
CPU15 68% 53C
CPU16 60% 53C
RAM 23020MB
D3D12 54fps

But these are not steady through playing the game. It fluctuates a lot.

[Warmech]

Got it, thanks. Have you tried running in fullscreen and dropping down to something like 1080p resolution just to see if there's any huge performance difference? I'm pretty certain a 3090 should handle 1440p UW at the settings you describe and obviously don't expect you to play that low, but just worth a test to confirm. Sorry mixing up different people and support. 4070 at 1440p is definitely way more than enough for 60fps with upscaling. I would try testing at medium though just to see if there is a difference without any raytracing effects enabled.

Try going through both the Optimization and Crashing sticky posts. Something in there may clear some config that was holding back performance.

Also please see this post about clearing out shaders for nvidia GPUs, it seemed to help for one person https://steamcommunity.com/app/2479810/discussions/0/4626981323674868732/#c4626981579416148439 There's also a new shader cache reset option at the bottom of the in game graphics settings. That may temporarily drop your frames again as things recompile, but it may help as a sustained fix once the cache is rebuilt.

[Warmech]

Originally posted by Prince Rohan:

RAM 23020MB

It looks like you're running some odd amount with 3 different sticks like 8x8x8, or 2 sticks that are 1x8G and 1x16G. The mismatched RAM could be hurting performance. Although to what degree I honestly wouldn't know.

[Prince Rohan]

Originally posted by Warmech:

Got it, thanks. Have you tried running in fullscreen and dropping down to something like 1080p resolution just to see if there's any huge performance difference? I'm pretty certain a 3090 should handle 1440p UW at the settings you describe and obviously don't expect you to play that low, but just worth a test to confirm. Sorry mixing up different people and support. 4070 at 1440p is definitely way more than enough for 60fps with upscaling. I would try testing at medium though just to see if there is a difference without any raytracing effects enabled.

Try going through both the Optimization and Crashing sticky posts. Something in there may clear some config that was holding back performance.

Also please see this post about clearing out shaders for nvidia GPUs, it seemed to help for one person https://steamcommunity.com/app/2479810/discussions/0/4626981323674868732/#c4626981579416148439 There's also a new shader cache reset option at the bottom of the in game graphics settings. That may temporarily drop your frames again as things recompile, but it may help as a sustained fix once the cache is rebuilt.

Going from 1440p to 1080p doesn't make a difference. I tried the shader thing both from the steam post and the in game reset thing and that seemed to make a slight fps increase. Right now it's running at around 50-70fps at medium settings with DLSS balanced. Turning the settings to low however gave me less fps, so i think the culprit might be my cpu

[Prince Rohan]

Originally posted by Warmech:

Originally posted by Prince Rohan:

RAM 23020MB

It looks like you're running some odd amount with 3 different sticks like 8x8x8, or 2 sticks that are 1x8G and 1x16G. The mismatched RAM could be hurting performance. Although to what degree I honestly wouldn't know.

Hmm that is weird. I don't have any issues with performance on any other game so i'm not sure. I also didn't build this pc myself so i'm not sure how the sticks are layed out

[Warmech]

Originally posted by Prince Rohan:

Originally posted by Warmech:

Got it, thanks. Have you tried running in fullscreen and dropping down to something like 1080p resolution just to see if there's any huge performance difference? I'm pretty certain a 3090 should handle 1440p UW at the settings you describe and obviously don't expect you to play that low, but just worth a test to confirm. Sorry mixing up different people and support. 4070 at 1440p is definitely way more than enough for 60fps with upscaling. I would try testing at medium though just to see if there is a difference without any raytracing effects enabled.

Try going through both the Optimization and Crashing sticky posts. Something in there may clear some config that was holding back performance.

Also please see this post about clearing out shaders for nvidia GPUs, it seemed to help for one person https://steamcommunity.com/app/2479810/discussions/0/4626981323674868732/#c4626981579416148439 There's also a new shader cache reset option at the bottom of the in game graphics settings. That may temporarily drop your frames again as things recompile, but it may help as a sustained fix once the cache is rebuilt.

Going from 1440p to 1080p doesn't make a difference. I tried the shader thing both from the steam post and the in game reset thing and that seemed to make a slight fps increase. Right now it's running at around 50-70fps at medium settings with DLSS balanced. Turning the settings to low however gave me less fps, so i think the culprit might be my cpu

Yea unfortunately I don't have an Intel CPU to test out. I'm still suspicious of those low temperatures though. What CPU cooler are you using? The 11th gen was known to be HOT and power hungry (and performance even below 10th gen Intel sometimes).

Did you lower down any power limits or boost clocks/multipliers in BIOS previously? Or maybe set a negative AVX offset?

[Prince Rohan]

Originally posted by Warmech:

Originally posted by Prince Rohan:

Going from 1440p to 1080p doesn't make a difference. I tried the shader thing both from the steam post and the in game reset thing and that seemed to make a slight fps increase. Right now it's running at around 50-70fps at medium settings with DLSS balanced. Turning the settings to low however gave me less fps, so i think the culprit might be my cpu

Yea unfortunately I don't have an Intel CPU to test out. I'm still suspicious of those low temperatures though. What CPU cooler are you using? The 11th gen was known to be HOT and power hungry (and performance even below 10th gen Intel sometimes).

Did you lower down any power limits or boost clocks/multipliers in BIOS previously? Or maybe set a negative AVX offset?

My cooler is a "be quiet Pure Rock SLIM 2"

I haven't messed around with any power or clock settings at all, but i did enable Resizable BAR in the bios today, just because i was looking for anything online to boost my fps in the game. Turning this setting on didn't do anything to boost my performance though.

[Warmech]

Originally posted by Prince Rohan:

Originally posted by Warmech:

Yea unfortunately I don't have an Intel CPU to test out. I'm still suspicious of those low temperatures though. What CPU cooler are you using? The 11th gen was known to be HOT and power hungry (and performance even below 10th gen Intel sometimes).

Did you lower down any power limits or boost clocks/multipliers in BIOS previously? Or maybe set a negative AVX offset?

My cooler is a "be quiet Pure Rock SLIM 2"

I haven't messed around with any power or clock settings at all, but i did enable Resizable BAR in the bios today, just because i was looking for anything online to boost my fps in the game. Turning this setting on didn't do anything to boost my performance though.

Here's what I'm thinking at this point, and it will be up to you how much more you want to troubleshoot. Your CPU may have some power/boost/multiplier/etc... limit on it that's holding it back. However even if that's the case and you find the right settings, a 120mm single tower 4 heatpipe air cooler won't let a 11900k hit its full potential without overheating or thermal throttling. You may still be able to find a better middle ground between performance and temp than now though.

I would run some CPU benchmarks like Cinebench[www.maxon.net], or check out 3dmark on Steam and run some of the free benchmarks on there and compare performance and temps. That may confirm if you're lower than expected. Also in either RTSS or using HWinfo64[www.hwinfo.com] see if you can note down your max/average CPU power usage, and clock speeds when running GZW at different points.

[Hairy Mouse]

Originally posted by Warmech:

Originally posted by Prince Rohan:

RAM 23020MB

It looks like you're running some odd amount with 3 different sticks like 8x8x8, or 2 sticks that are 1x8G and 1x16G. The mismatched RAM could be hurting performance. Although to what degree I honestly wouldn't know.

could just be running 2x12gb sticks making the number seem odd. I have 96gb ram, and im running only 2 sticks. Theres those new, what are they called, non-binary sticks or something? i call em tweener sticks, cause theyre good if you want something in between like 32/64, or 64/128.

[Warmech]

Originally posted by Hairy Mouse:

Originally posted by Warmech:

It looks like you're running some odd amount with 3 different sticks like 8x8x8, or 2 sticks that are 1x8G and 1x16G. The mismatched RAM could be hurting performance. Although to what degree I honestly wouldn't know.

could just be running 2x12gb sticks making the number seem odd. I have 96gb ram, and im running only 2 sticks. Theres those new, what are they called, non-binary sticks or something? i call em tweener sticks, cause theyre good if you want something in between like 32/64, or 64/128.

If you can link me to any legit 12G DDR4 desktop stick, which is the only generaton that LGA 1200 can run, I would be extremely impressed.