Gray Zone Warfare

Gray Zone Warfare

RedLizard May 8, 2024 @ 3:30pm
Refilling your mags should not be a free action...
So, realistic tactical shooters combat the infamous "CoD compulsive reload syndrome" by, well, having realistically modelled magazines that don't magically regrow ammo every time you press 'R'. So if you tend to reload every five shots or so, you'll soon end up with your rig full of half-empty mags and not a single full one in case you really need those 30 rounds. It really forces you to track your shot count (you know, like a real soldier would), and makes you think twice about needlessly reloading, especially when ammo is short.

GZW does all that, but with one small caveat: Refilling your magazines with loose ammo is an instant affair, just drag and drop. That alone makes any magazine management a pointless affair IMO. Your rig is full of half-depleted magazines? No problem, just duck behind the closest bush, top 'em up, and voila, within two seconds, you're back in the fight with freshly loaded ones, the only limiting factor being how fast can you click the inventory screen.

Currently, I can see no downside in reloading every single time I shoot my gun. After all, why would I walk around with 28 rounds in my rifle when I can walk with 30? It's not like constant topping up of magazines will cost me anything, especially given you spend much more time eating or healing yourself. In fact, you can refill your mags even while doing that, making it nonsense not to refill when you are out of the fight anyway.

I tend to burn through ammo much faster in GZW than I do in other similar games, so I can understand the devs thought constant reloading would frustrate players maybe, but I feel it really cheapens an important aspect of armed combat. After all, the aforementioned eating/healing is not a free action either, so why is reloading?
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Deadpixel May 8, 2024 @ 3:37pm 
I do agree it should take time to reload the magazine. It's quicker for me to reload the SKS by moving it to my alt spot, unloading, drag ammo onto mag, drag mag onto gun, drag gun back to primary than it is to wait for it to reload one round at a time. Also would like reloads to go faster the more you do it for each weapon
Addex78 May 8, 2024 @ 3:37pm 
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I enjoy the fact that I don't need to spend 5 minutes loading magazines after every fight.

Keeps the momentum of the game going.
DirtyDan May 8, 2024 @ 3:38pm 
It's a welcomed quality of life feature IMO
George May 8, 2024 @ 3:41pm 
there is absolutely no way this will stay as it is. I'm 100% sure that eventually, repacking mags will take a long time
Rogue May 8, 2024 @ 3:47pm 
They'll move to the Tarkov ammo packing system eventually I'm sure. This is EA so plenty of things everyone keeps asking for will be implemented I'm sure.
RedLizard May 8, 2024 @ 3:47pm 
Originally posted by Addex78:
I enjoy the fact that I don't need to spend 5 minutes loading magazines after every fight.

Keeps the momentum of the game going.

As I said, I can understand the motivation, but then the same can be said about every non-combat activity. And mind you, these games are not about constant, non-stop shooting action.

Originally posted by George:
there is absolutely no way this will stay as it is. I'm 100% sure that eventually, repacking mags will take a long time

Yeah, I suspect / hope so. Kinda wonder why they didn't implement a simple progress bar, seems pretty easy compared to other things already in game. But then again, I can understand there are no "simple" tasks in software development.
Last edited by RedLizard; May 8, 2024 @ 3:48pm
Romeos May 8, 2024 @ 3:50pm 
please don't tell me you don't know about magazine fillers? they've just skipped that routine. it is easy and fast to load a magazine with ammo.
Addex78 May 8, 2024 @ 3:50pm 
Originally posted by RedLizard:
Originally posted by Addex78:
I enjoy the fact that I don't need to spend 5 minutes loading magazines after every fight.

Keeps the momentum of the game going.

As I said, I can understand the motivation, but then the same can be said about every non-combat activity. And min you, these games are not about constant, non-stop shooting action.

No other action would take as long as loading magazines would so the same can't be said.

Eating and drinking are like 10 seconds and you rarely need to eat or drink.

These games can be about non-stop shooting action, maybe that could be this games USP.
AngryMobster May 8, 2024 @ 3:52pm 
oh boohoo go back to tarkov mate. that ♥♥♥♥ was nothing but a time waster.
AngryMobster May 8, 2024 @ 3:53pm 
Originally posted by Romeos:
please don't tell me you don't know about magazine fillers? they've just skipped that routine. it is easy and fast to load a magazine with ammo.
don't use logic they don't like it.
RedLizard May 8, 2024 @ 3:56pm 
Originally posted by AngryMobster:
don't use logic they don't like it.

The logic:

Originally posted by AngryMobster:
oh boohoo go back to tarkov mate
Ohma May 8, 2024 @ 3:59pm 
I 100% agree - they should introduce a pay-to-reload option.

I can't stand how all these plebs can just reload for free; it should be at least $5 per reload.

Actually, the fact that the game doesn't have a functioning item shop fills me with absolute disdain.

I'm disgusted.
MaDeuce May 8, 2024 @ 4:01pm 
It took Tarkov about 4 years to implement what you're suggesting, because it used to be the same way. I'm sure GZW will beat that time. I also want to custom load my mags without having to split ammo and do it manually 1 by 1.
Last edited by MaDeuce; May 8, 2024 @ 4:02pm
Saws n Sins May 8, 2024 @ 4:03pm 
Originally posted by George:
there is absolutely no way this will stay as it is. I'm 100% sure that eventually, repacking mags will take a long time


I hope they add repacking animations, but not that long of a time. I can repack a mag in real life in not that long. However in real life I just got the ammo right there and I'm not digging into a backpack for each round
Romeos May 8, 2024 @ 4:05pm 
Originally posted by Saws n Sins:
Originally posted by George:
there is absolutely no way this will stay as it is. I'm 100% sure that eventually, repacking mags will take a long time


I hope they add repacking animations, but not that long of a time. I can repack a mag in real life in not that long. However in real life I just got the ammo right there and I'm not digging into a backpack for each round
thats the removed routine i wrote about. You will have just to spend few extra minutes on basecamp to fill those fillers and then use them in fight to refill as fast as you do it now. It is pointless to keep people on basecamp refilling the refillers lol.
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Date Posted: May 8, 2024 @ 3:30pm
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