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[Kasper]

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[ArmedGhost-]

Factions working together even in PvE still wouldn't make sense. Communicate with your friends beforehand or restart your character.

[Wyze]

Someone restart and move characters. Even in PvE were still different factions.

[Cross]

Originally posted by Kasera:

Not being able to play with your friends who chose a faction without consulting everyone they knew who might ever buy the game is really, really lame, and it's costing the company lost sales.

There is no reason we shouldn't be able to group with each other on the PvE side.

PMCs have overlapping professional relationships across various companies in real life, operators from Triple Canopy aren't going to slaughter a bunch of G4S guys just because they have different employers.

Let us co-op with our friends, faction is only relevant in PvP.

I can agree with this. The name of the PvE mode is in fact "Joint Operations", and in the military/contractor realm of real life, that means sharing intel, movement, and resources between different units, branches, civilian contractors, etc. I'd like to see the PvE mode show location of ALL player PMCs on the map, and ability to squad up and go to the other base camps. It makes sense because we can't harm other players anyways, and not being able to tell what areas are being ran thru by other factions makes it hard to determine where to go, especially if you have to do kill quests. Im curious to see how the game develops, because the devs have said they intend to focus the gameplay around the PvE aspect (not necessarily PvE mode specifically), so I'd like to see what gameplay mechanics they will add to keep the PvE engaging and challenging, and ever a threat.

[bobbyanything]

Originally posted by Cross:

Originally posted by Kasera:

Not being able to play with your friends who chose a faction without consulting everyone they knew who might ever buy the game is really, really lame, and it's costing the company lost sales.

There is no reason we shouldn't be able to group with each other on the PvE side.

PMCs have overlapping professional relationships across various companies in real life, operators from Triple Canopy aren't going to slaughter a bunch of G4S guys just because they have different employers.

Let us co-op with our friends, faction is only relevant in PvP.

I can agree with this. The name of the PvE mode is in fact "Joint Operations", and in the military/contractor realm of real life, that means sharing intel, movement, and resources between different units, branches, civilian contractors, etc. I'd like to see the PvE mode show location of ALL player PMCs on the map, and ability to squad up and go to the other base camps. It makes sense because we can't harm other players anyways, and not being able to tell what areas are being ran thru by other factions makes it hard to determine where to go, especially if you have to do kill quests. Im curious to see how the game develops, because the devs have said they intend to focus the gameplay around the PvE aspect (not necessarily PvE mode specifically), so I'd like to see what gameplay mechanics they will add to keep the PvE engaging and challenging, and ever a threat.

Yes yes and yes

[RedLizard]

I mean, there is not even a meaningful difference between the three PMCs, so I wonder, what would be the harm?

And for people saying it would not make sense, it's literally an optional game mode in a fictional game about fictional PMCs fighting a fictional conflict on a fictional island, so...

[Fluffy Monster Thing]

Originally posted by ArmedGhost-:

Factions working together even in PvE still wouldn't make sense. Communicate with your friends beforehand or restart your character.

The gamemode is literally called 'Joint Operations'.

[ArmedGhost-]

Originally posted by Kasera:

Originally posted by Cross:

I can agree with this. The name of the PvE mode is in fact "Joint Operations" ... I'd like to see the PvE mode show location of ALL player PMCs on the map, and ability to squad up and go to the other base camps. It makes sense because we can't harm other players anyways.

This would be a perfect.

It's literally called Joint Operations, so when we select that mode, let us jointly operate.

Show everyone on the map, let everyone board any chopper or enter any base.

We chose Players vs Environment for a reason.

PMCs working together completely goes against the lore and story of the game. Makes absolutely no sense for rival PMC factions to be working together.

[ArmedGhost-]

Originally posted by RedLizard:

I mean, there is not even a meaningful difference between the three PMCs, so I wonder, what would be the harm?

And for people saying it would not make sense, it's literally an optional game mode in a fictional game about fictional PMCs fighting a fictional conflict on a fictional island, so...

Soooo, let's keep the fiction relative to the lore and not compromise that because people can't communicate with their friends beforehand.

[Fluffy Monster Thing]

Originally posted by ArmedGhost-:

Originally posted by Kasera:

This would be a perfect.

It's literally called Joint Operations, so when we select that mode, let us jointly operate.

Show everyone on the map, let everyone board any chopper or enter any base.

We chose Players vs Environment for a reason.

PMCs working together completely goes against the lore and story of the game. Makes absolutely no sense for rival PMC factions to be working together.

Yeah but what if nobody gives a ♥♥♥♥ about the lore. It's kinda easy to suspend disbelief in a mode where you can playfully stab eachother for hours on end and never die.

[ArmedGhost-]

Originally posted by Fluffy Monster Thing:

Originally posted by ArmedGhost-:

Factions working together even in PvE still wouldn't make sense. Communicate with your friends beforehand or restart your character.

The gamemode is literally called 'Joint Operations'.

Yeah. Joint Operations with other faction members without the PvP element of opposing factions.

[ArmedGhost-]

Originally posted by Fluffy Monster Thing:

Originally posted by ArmedGhost-:

PMCs working together completely goes against the lore and story of the game. Makes absolutely no sense for rival PMC factions to be working together.

Yeah but what if nobody gives a ♥♥♥♥ about the lore.

that's fine, but I am sure the devs do.

[ArmedGhost-]

Originally posted by Kasera:

Originally posted by ArmedGhost-:

Makes absolutely no sense for rival PMC factions to be working together.

The game mode is called..... Joint Operations.

That means operating together.

Stop being a curmudgeon who searches for excuses to deny options to other people, you're like a father who doesn't want their kids to go to the mall even though nobody asked him to move. You go PvP all you want and let the rest of us go play together without you.

Ironic telling me to stop denying the opinions of other people, while me, a person is giving an opinion to why rival factions working together objectively doesn't make sense. lmao.

Joint Operations is just what they named the Co-op mode. Too add, if you had 3 factions per server in full co-op pve, that's 48 f*cking players just mobbing the map. Use adult communication and coordinate with friends to which faction ya'll are choosing.

[-=312th=- Tantrix]

OP has a point. Opposing factions can combine forces to fight a common enemy, then if/when they are eliminated the war between the factions continues.

[ArmedGhost-]

Originally posted by Kasera:

Originally posted by ArmedGhost-:

Ironic telling me to stop denying the opinions of other people, while me, a person is giving an opinion to why rival factions working together objectively doesn't make sense.

You talk about adult communication but you apparently can't read, the word was "option" not opinion. You're arguing in favor of other people not having the option to play together, and your basis for it boils down to "waaah it doesn't fit with the lore" when nobody gives a ♥♥♥♥ about this game's story, they want to play a looter shooter with their buddies.

Originally posted by ArmedGhost-:

if you had 3 factions per server in full co-op pve, that's 48 f*cking players just mobbing the map

... are you dense? That's literally what is already happening. Three full teams of people who can't hurt each other, just hanging out and killing AI and talking. We're already doing that.

Originally posted by ArmedGhost-:

Use adult communication and coordinate with friends to which faction ya'll are choosing.

This is like saying "just don't get shot" when someone says they want body armor.

People don't call every friend they have before they make a choice in a videogame, none of what you are arguing against would affect you in any way, you're just a grump searching for excuses to say "No" to other people doing things differently than you.

I am not dense, I simply went full r*tard. Never go full r*tard.