About the wipes

[Fox]

Honestly reaching out to the devs to say please walk back the decisions on the wipes, I'm willing to get this game but not if progress is going to be deleted. I'm open to the option of being able to wipe all progress, but it should the individual player's decision and nobody else's.

Tarkov repeatedly wiped progress because if you didn't do all of the quests again you'd burn through the minuscule amount of content they actually bother to add in those updates in a week or two. It is done to artificially lengthen the amount of time it takes for people to get bored again and realize they're playing the Russian equivalent of Star Citizen.

So the question I'm asking, and the one I'm hoping to have people agree with me on is this:

Wipes force every player to take their journey again at the cost of nullifying all their previous efforts. Instead of pulling everyone back to the start could you instead focus on letting players help you to build the journey forwards?

Maybe I'm just screaming into the void like a madman with no point but at 2:53 in the morning is usually when I do my best writing so I'm hoping what I've said here will resonate with people that agree and maybe haven't found the words to express it yet.

Or I get 200 clown emotes and someone sends a pipe bomb to my house, could go either way.

Anyway devs, pls consider

[ArmedGhost-]

Originally posted by xpootx1:

With a PvE only mode, I see no reason for wipes after the official release. If someone decides to go in to PvP with "starter gear", that's on them, they could have spent the time in PvE to get the better gear.

PvE is going to be removed from the game in the full release. Game is developed for PvEvP and give the mounds of issues PvE has, it shows.

[xpootx1]

Originally posted by ArmedGhost-:

Originally posted by xpootx1:

With a PvE only mode, I see no reason for wipes after the official release. If someone decides to go in to PvP with "starter gear", that's on them, they could have spent the time in PvE to get the better gear.

PvE is going to be removed from the game in the full release. Game is developed for PvEvP and give the mounds of issues PvE has, it shows.

That may be problematic for Madfinger games, if true, seeing how they have sold copies of the game with the description of it having a "PvEvP and PvE mode".
Do you know of a source where a member of Madfinger Games has announced this or eluded to the removal of the PvE mode?

[DarK]

Originally posted by xpootx1:

Originally posted by ArmedGhost-:

PvE is going to be removed from the game in the full release. Game is developed for PvEvP and give the mounds of issues PvE has, it shows.

That may be problematic for Madfinger games, if true, seeing how they have sold copies of the game with the description of it having a "PvEvP and PvE mode".
Do you know of a source where a member of Madfinger Games has announced this or eluded to the removal of the PvE mode?

Ignore the troll, PvE will not be removed. It's the only thing keeping the game alive. Plus it's a feature that they used as a buying point. It will never be removed.

[Deadly Chicken XoP']

because the modes are linked they cant really only wipe PvP mode, I get it that it will be frustrating if you have to re level up vendors etc. But how else can they level the playing field for new players ? I guess new players could start with PvE only until they level up?
It will probably be extra frustrating for me as I cant sink as much time as I want to into this game, I only really get on for a few nights at the weekend. so progress is kind of slow and I doubt I would complete everything by the time a wipe comes along.


But it is what it is I guess. I knew about wipes before I purchased.

[DarK]

Originally posted by Deadly Chicken XoP':

because the modes are linked they cant really only wipe PvP mode, I get it that it will be frustrating if you have to re level up vendors etc. But how else can they level the playing field for new players ? I guess new players could start with PvE only until they level up?
It will probably be extra frustrating for me as I cant sink as much time as I want to into this game, I only really get on for a few nights at the weekend. so progress is kind of slow and I doubt I would complete everything by the time a wipe comes along.


But it is what it is I guess. I knew about wipes before I purchased.

The modes are linked at the moment. They can always split them and add separate characters for both.

[Deadly Chicken XoP']

saw an interview with one of the team and he didnt sound like that was a plan, he said he likes to PvE and dip into PvP,

[DarK]

Originally posted by Deadly Chicken XoP':

saw an interview with one of the team and he didnt sound like that was a plan, he said he likes to PvE and dip into PvP,

Then most likely it will remain the same. Anyway I don't see a problem with the current system. the only ones complaining are the LZ campers.

[Surottoru]

I would like, at least in PvE wipes to be optional, BUT you get rewarded something for wiping, maybe a cosmetic, and some extra starting funds or weapons, Maybe the longer you haven't wiped the better the rewards to encourage you to wipe

[DarK]

Originally posted by ThrottleFox:

I would like, at least in PvE wipes to be optional, BUT you get rewarded something for wiping, maybe a cosmetic, and some extra starting funds or weapons, Maybe the longer you haven't wiped the better the rewards to encourage you to wipe

Exactly. We can wipe if we want to. Let us choose.

[Sn4pFPS]

6 months its a lot and enough to complete most of the tasks even if you don't play everyday , so it is not that bad and every wipe will come whit a big update aswell so it is nice.

[JDSquirrel]

If the wipe does not happen, that would require more base content yes? To keep players engaged and interested in playing. But on that note the tasks given currently feel very repetitive.
If there isn't a wipe to bring you back, how repeatable is the game as is and how many tasks can be added before it's boring?
I hear ppl say when they have beat the game athey will wipe their own character to play again, is there enough ppl that on that same page to prevent wipes every 6mo?

[Rated-R]

if somehow they wipe the game, I have lost interest on building up on buying the support edition. It's quite a bummer.

If so, I hope we get to keep all our items and money. I know, I know force wipe is wiping all but come on..

[UnwieldyRex]

Originally posted by Peptowl:

I don't mind resetting my level, or my tasks, or my gear. But let me keep the vendor levels and LZ's. There's no point in messing with vendor levels or LZ's as far as stabilizing the in-game economy goes. If you reset my tasks I can make the money and gear again. It's a major grind for vendor levels and I work too many hours irl.

If you keep all the progress but tasks and storage reset, what exactly was the point of the wipe? Like day 1 of wipe, a even a basic package player could push Tiger Bay / Midnight Sapphire after spending 10k (out of 50) in the trader....

Why reset lockers if you can just turn around and buy end game equipment from day 1? You would literally fill it back up on day one.

Why reset quests, if traders are all leveled up? The only point for the quests at that point would be to make money and free gear.

If you keep progress with traders and keep all LZ's, there is ZERO sense of progression.

What you're asking is to basically skip the wipe all together, at which point the game eventually becomes stale. Resetting everything gives people something to work towards continuously.

[Deadly Chicken XoP']

I thought the wipes were more about attracting new players so they wouldn't be massively disadvantaged with everyone else levelled up the vendors and have vast sums of cash to throw at loadouts.

That makes sense . I dont know how much fun redoing the missions will be as everyone will be going through the same areas again at the same time which is tiresome as it makes it harder to find the keys or kill the bosses because some other team has already breezed through and cleared everything out. Im sure redoing all the missions will be a lot easier second time around as you will have a good idea of what you need to do instead of working it out on the fly.

I have heard that there will be wipes on big updates before the game is officially released, but perhaps not so much after ? that might be ok.
the thing for me is that I dont get to play too much just a coupel of nights on the weekends, so I may well not even get to complete all the missions if they wipe every 6 months ?

Having said that there is a lot of content to be added to the game, the entire centre of the map isnt really populated yet, possibly there is a bunch of stuff to be added there for future missions that have not yet been created. it will be a bit sad to see all the progression wiped but maybe early adopters will get a special thankyou loot item or 2 for helping the dev team when the game goes version 1 ?

[Dan Nukem]

i dont mind wipes i just want the game fixed