one shot from AI

[Mo_is_here]

so many times I get one shot and killed by AIs with full armor. this needs to be fixed!
I dont mind losing all my stuff after the second death, but please fix ASAP.

[Rahj Abdul Mohmamed Singh]

Escrito originalmente por Sturmtruppe:

Escrito originalmente por SteinDrSolido:

yes , AI 1 Shot , and when i shot AI i need 3-5 Shots or more , fix this

raw, pure, unadulterated skill issue here. The AI needs to be made harder

the AI are fine just need to be a little smarter they are civ rebels not trained militray people they shouldnt be hard but shouldnt tank bullets with zero armour

[Romeos]

Escrito originalmente por Matt:

Escrito originalmente por Sturmtruppe:

raw, pure, unadulterated skill issue here. The AI needs to be made harder

the AI are fine just need to be a little smarter they are civ rebels not trained militray people they shouldnt be hard but shouldnt tank bullets with zero armour

Yep. I think devs are aware of this issue and will fix it. Same with pisstool shots. they never die of pisstool hits.

[Romeos]

by the way. I just went to starting town of my faction with unarmored AI-s with my brand new AK74M witch FMJ ammo and met my first AI who took almost a chamber of ammo from AK. I thought - ohh, hell, again. But when I looted it, I noticed he had a Small Rig on him full of AKM magazines. That took me to an idea... what if they tank with weapon magazines inside their rigs? ... they are metall and full of ammo (also metall). Kind of logish?

I mean it is not logish for real life, but game might think it is an armor. So kind of a logish bug.

[Legacy]

Escrito originalmente por romeor:

Escrito originalmente por Matt:

the AI are fine just need to be a little smarter they are civ rebels not trained militray people they shouldnt be hard but shouldnt tank bullets with zero armour

Yep. I think devs are aware of this issue and will fix it. Same with pisstool shots. they never die of pisstool hits.

Pistol really depends on the distance. My first time using the Glock i shot an npc from around 50 -75 m, put 2 mags in him, still standing. Second time i got surprised by an NPC, shot 2 rounds in his chest from 10 meters, he died instantly.

Pistols are for really close range, but i dont carry them anymore

[Romeos]

So. I tested my thoughts even more and came to conclusion, that tanking AI-s is not a bug, it is expected, as game is EA and seems like devs testing with different penetration materials. If I see an AI with rig, I aim spots without pockets. Instal kill. As soon as I aim and shoot for pockets - they tank. And different rigs with different stuff tanks more or less. If it is full of food and drinks - tanks less, if fool of magazines - tanks more.

so if there an AI with IIIA (soft) armor and rig full of magazines on him, it tanks a lot. But if you shoot fmj bullet straight into the armor (as IIIA can't protect from rifle ammo) it dies 1-2 shots depends on the place u hit them. So we are just testers.. I will write a bigger threadd with my observations.

[oJayz]

Only aim head if your target is either unaware or entirely stationary, otherwise aim center mass. If you are using decent ammo (personally I use 5.45x39 PS) you will punch through most armor, if not break their plate entirely before you have to mag dump lol.

The worst for me so far has been in Fort Narith, everyone there seems to be using Class III or Class III+ Armor, but the ammo they use is higher than I can acquire. After killing a handful of them and taking their 5.45x39 PP ammo, it was obvious. Their ammunition at times has no problem passing through a standard Class III, so i've upped to only using Class III+ and it's helped take the odds from 25% chance I get shot and there's no pen, to a coin flip of 50/50. I'd rather take those chances, as i've soaked quite a bit of gunfire to the front using it this way.

Now Ban Pa... those AI are just on crack, died there to the same stuff every time. One shot, above the collar bone, but below the hairline. Can't really protect from that, so I play cover. Well their AI is set to suppress areas they "previously saw you" at, so they'll blind fire where you could be. Headshot/Throat Shot again lol, it's wild man.

[SunkistMan]

Getting shot in the head is great. Makes you learn to position and cover correctly.

But what does need fixing is the AI not getting one tapped.

I shot you in the face. I saw the blood. Now die already.

[Sn4pFPS]

the pistol is useless work only very close range , the bots wil shot you from 300m away when they spot you and you won't see them anyway whitout a good scope and the good scope is pay2win even the x4 that you can buy is not good , you have to unlock it whit level up once you have it , and upgrade rifle it is playable , whit standard edition is very bad for start

[Diviy]

Completely agree, I just shot an AI in the face 2 times just to immediately die from his shot. That's fking stupid rly turns down the otherwise good game feeling

[Romeos]

Escrito originalmente por SunkistMan:

Getting shot in the head is great. Makes you learn to position and cover correctly.

But what does need fixing is the AI not getting one tapped.

I shot you in the face. I saw the blood. Now die already.

what if you just shot his ear off, like bullet went a bit wrong way? or you shot his upper head made a scratch with lots of blood but not leathal? in real life dude would fall down - we know. but this is game, some facts you have to count with. It would be very hard to simulate the real life behaviour in game. So we have such situations when hit into head but not right spot doesn't bring AI down, but if they start shooting back at the same time they are WAY NOT accurate. So this shot definetelly played a role on their total status.

[Gunn]

"so many times I get one shot and killed by AIs with full armor. this needs to be fixed!"
What does their armor have to do with it? What needs fixed? If they one shot you with no armor would that be better? This post reads so weird.

[SunkistMan]

Considering I spent a whole mag on his upper torso and head and he died to the very last bullet of the glock i had to pull out... Yeah something is up.

Think the devs also commented on this issue as well. Something about servers being up for a while that causes the issue.

Can't remember where though.

[Mo_is_here]

OK, this multi shots from AIs is really annoying and kinda program issue now. when they shoot you with AKs, it's ALWAYS about 5~6 burst shots; two times from those chances you are def. dead.
i have lost lots of stuff from this illogical idea from Devs. This even happens from few hundred meters away.
HOW THE HECK CAN THOSE CIVILIANS SHOOT SO ACCURATELY AND KILL YOU FROM THAT DISTANCE?
PLEASE DONT MAKE THIS ANOTHER "DEADSIDE" NON-SENSE.

[★ GallowDancer]

Happened to me. I dumped a full magazine of 7.62x39 into an enemy at point blank range and he just one shotted me in the chest. It wasn't even a medium or large wound that killed me, it was a light wound in the upper torso close to the shoulder.

[captain lost]

Escrito originalmente por ★ Uncle Fungus:

Happened to me. I dumped a full magazine of 7.62x39 into an enemy at point blank range and he just one shotted me in the chest. It wasn't even a medium or large wound that killed me, it was a light wound in the upper torso close to the shoulder.

left or right side? The heart is upper left side of the chest if that's where you were hit that's likely why you went down. They added "organs" to the bodies in this game apparently.