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Devs are nogunz and I can see their whiteknight army is as well.
Aktually this was the additional marksmanship training they implemented in the Marine Corps when we were ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ the M855 wasn't dropping people and asking for stronger weapons. "Shot placement". Git Gud Marines you're just not shooting them right.
The mechanisms of incapacitation are central nervous system destruction, circulation destruction, or over 15% blood loss. Alternatively you could shoot someone in the "pelvic girdle" to shatter their pelvis and get a mobility kill. They could still fight, but weren't going anywhere and were easier to finish off. Useful for dropping enemies in armor if you weren't getting results shooting center mass.
There's also psychological incapacitation from wounds but that's unreliable and can be countered with drugs (think meth). So we didn't rely on it in training. That's where being gutshot falls into. Sure they can be incapacitated immediately, but it's also possible not until after they kill you first.
I say incapacitated, not killed, because whether or not they died was beside the point. You just needed them to not be capable of fighting anymore.
This game doesn't really have ai getting incapacitated. You can't shoot an AI and affect their ability of fighting back necessarily.
People here pretending like this game is realistic have never shot or hunted in their life. Go watch ballistics testing of rifle rounds and what they do, and the Hydrostatic shock effect (or whatever you want to call it if you want to get pedantic and semantic about it existing). These are not 22lr rounds that just punch holes, they have a massive effect.
You do not need to hit CNS, or a vital organ PRECISELY accurately to stop a threat with rifle. Also if you do something like hit femoral and put someone out of the fight and incapacitate them they aren't lasting long after that either.
if rifles were as ineffective at stopping threats as they are in this game they wouldn't be used. And certainly hunters would be boned shooting at creatures more durable than humans are with them. Some naked dude taking 5+ rounds center mass is not realistic. I do not care if all 5 of the shots didn't hit "viTaL oRgAns" precisely or not.
I have seen issues with the 5.56 as well however. This game has many issues with ballistics and damage modeling.
Nonetheless, pumping an enemy up close full of bullets should lead to at least a reaction instead of a laugh and the "victim" just easily shooting back, whether it's 5.56, 7.62 or whatever material.
Has to be server desync or devs have to adjust damage according to shock, impact-energy (the pleb enemies have no plates) and human behaviour like fear and confusion.
Shooting them from afar is working well though. One hit in the head or some 2-3 hits centermass and a bit of waiting do the trick almost all the time.
It's CQB where they react weirdly.
Same goes for the knive: If I approach an enemy from behind, ONE hit with the knive should suffice - ingame, you will die, because even 3 hits don't work, you're getting killed instead.
No stealth possible atm unfortunately. Really hope they change that.
They modeled the military training version, not the real life version. You're right, they do need to incorporate the other factors of incapacitation. We agree, so come at me again bro!
The thing is, it's not a really viable way to kill someone in combat in real-life, it'll kill them for sure but it'll take a while and a while is a long time in a close quarters combat situation, since during that time they can still shoot back if they're hyped up on adrenaline, drugs or sheer determination.
The human body is a lot more resistant than you'd think, and humans are very good at trying to claw onto life through what'll eventually be fatal injuries unless you take out the things that your body actively needs at all times to stay alive which at that point the human body will no longer function and give up pretty much from anywhere within instantaneously to a few seconds.
A gutshot is hard to recover from, but a shot to the heart? You're either dead on the spot from pain shock, or you've collapsed from sheer pain and panic meanwhile your blood is no longer flowing through your body to any of your systems such as muscles or most notably your brain. And generally once your brain is no longer getting blood it tends to shut down quite rapidly.
Lung shots would have a similar effect even if it takes more shots, and a bit more time as without working lungs you're no longer getting oxygen to your body, which means essentially the same result as your heart stops since it no longer has oxygenated blood to run on, and it also has no oxygenated blood to pump else where like vitals.
Meanwhile, a stomach shot whilst very very painful, and could very easily result in some very nasty things like infection, sepsis, severe bloodloss among other things, it's still nowhere an instant death or reliable way to kill someone in a combat situation and it could still be very possible to keep fighting despite sustaining gastrointestinal perforation if you've got enough adrenaline. Although once that wears off you will definitely start to feel it then. Even still, surgery can still save your life in the sort of case of a gastrointestinal perforation but admittedly the likely hood of you receiving critical medical attention in a combat situation for this kind of injury is not super duper likely unless you're casevaced ASAP.
Multiple shots would speed the process of dying this way up, but at that point why not just shoot them center of mass and be done with it?
There's always one guy who thinks 7.62x39 is a magically more lethal bullet than 5.56x45 because the first number is bigger. The rounds are functionally the same, with one being slightly longer than the other; they carry roughly the same mass. More importantly, I don't think you understand how ammunition works, because you can absolutely shoot someone wearing a plate carrier with soft point ammunition and it WILL NOT penetrate and they won't feel much. Modern armor systems do not bother with protecting limbs because you can absolutely catch a stray round in the heat of combat without even knowing and continue to operate just fine. Turns out when there are no vital organs and simply bone and tissue, the body is surprisingly resilient. In fact, most soldiers in today's combat die of blood loss because they were unaware they caught a round due to adrenaline being so high.
Educate yourself before you rant about realism.
Shot a guy with a mosin 7.62 earlier in the arm. Heard him scream and run around, he didn't shoot at me after that shot and died of bleeding moments later. So the system works, it just depends on where you hit/what bullets you use/how much impact your gun has.